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Old 08-10-2017, 12:19 PM   #71
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most so you can say you were there, because it was the thing to do.
Quite a blanket statement!
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Old 08-10-2017, 01:42 PM   #72
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It seems that a number of hotels in Oregon, Idaho, North Carolina and elsewhere are cancelling reservations made months ago for the August 20-21 time frame. Then they are doubling the regular rate for the rooms.

I got 2 nights at a Corps of Engineers CG that's in the path for $20. It was the last site available and I made that reservation in June. It may be the worst site in the CG, but it's mine.
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Old 08-10-2017, 02:04 PM   #73
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It seems that a number of hotels in Oregon, Idaho, North Carolina and elsewhere are cancelling reservations made months ago for the August 20-21 time frame. Then they are doubling the regular rate for the rooms.

I got 2 nights at a Corps of Engineers CG that's in the path for $20. It was the last site available and I made that reservation in June. It may be the worst site in the CG, but it's mine.
Oy, that sounds like a mess with the hotels. I'd heard rumors of people reselling hotel reservations for ludicrous rates ($1k/night in prime locations) but that's total hearsay as far as I can prove. We vastly overpaid for our campsites on Casper Mountain, but they're at 7900 feet and reserved through the city specifically for the eclipse, 5-night minimum. We reserved the sites in January, and at the time I didn't imagine there'd be the level of interest that has developed recently. I frankly couldn't care less if it's "the thing to do" or if people think the only reason to go and observe a natural event is because someone else did. I'm sure some can't be bothered to see the Grand Canyon or Glacier National Park because someone else thinks "it's the thing to do."
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Old 08-10-2017, 06:20 PM   #74
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I'm OK with people who don't care to see the eclipse. Less traffic on the roads.

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Old 08-10-2017, 10:02 PM   #75
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This has been a "Thing to do" ever since I was a little kid when my mom told me about the one she saw as a kid 75+ years ago. My 86 year old mother still talks about it. A friend of mine was named Firseen. One day I asked him where did your name come from. It was then I learned his middle name was Eclipse.

As I said to my wife a couple of years ago, "I'm going to see the eclipse in Oregon, want to come along?"

For me, this is 50+ year old childhood dream coming true.
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Old 08-11-2017, 01:02 PM   #76
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Wildfire smoke coverage?

We will be in Casper Wyoming for this big event. We purchased 50 pair of ISO certified cardboard viewing glasses, as I know there will be some folks who won't have any and will likely risk their sight regardless -- I've seen what folks will do during past events. The 7-11 convenience stores around here are selling these same glasses for $2.99, well above their $0.50 cost.

Making a pin-hole viewer, though, is satisfactory, and relatively easy; punch a "pinhole" in a piece of paper or lightweight cardboard, face away from the sun with the eclipsed sun over your shoulder and shine the pinhole onto another piece of white paper and you'll have an excellent example of what's going on. You may not see the visible stars and planets, but you'll see the eclipse.

THE BIG QUESTION to us, is what is the wildfire smoke going to do to the whole event? We hope folks will be posting updates for the CASPER area, as well as other areas across the country. Lots of folks in the East will be wondering too, about cloud cover, and expected cloud cover -- east of the Appalachians versus west of the Appalachians. Thanks for anything you can surmise!

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Old 08-11-2017, 01:20 PM   #77
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THE BIG QUESTION to us, is what is the wildfire smoke going to do to the whole event? We hope folks will be posting updates for the CASPER area, as well as other areas across the country. Lots of folks in the East will be wondering too, about cloud cover, and expected cloud cover -- east of the Appalachians versus west of the Appalachians. Thanks for anything you can surmise!
One option you might look at to assess the smoke situation are the Department of Transportation web cameras. They're all throughout Wyoming, though one of them in Casper seems to not be working. I suspect other states will have web cams too. http://www.wyoroad.info/Highway/webc...ebcameras.html

Today, 100 miles north of Casper, there is a mild haze in the sky. But it's not too bad. The fire situation in Wyoming this year is quite a bit better than some other states. We got quite a lot of snow and rain this last Winter and Spring, so there is a big fuel load out there, and therefore, the fire conditions could change a lot in the next 10 days.
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Old 08-11-2017, 02:30 PM   #78
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Those heading to Oregon

Local Oregonian here, anyone going to Oregon (especially any rural spot that is in the path of totality) area should really be sure to stock up on all supplies in advance...and likely expect hellish lines at any dump stations, gas stations, etc. Don't forget, if you are driving a gas TV we have full service gas only...you cannot pump your own. They just passed on exception to this to allow unattended self-serve in rural areas after hours though. If you have a diesel TV, then you can insist to pump it yourself if you really wish to. When busy it can take a little longer to get the pump started and for them to unhook you when done.

Please also practice extreme caution with any flames, cigarettes, or otherwise combustible items. We have had a very hot and very dry summer.

"In two weeks Madras will be taken over by eclipse viewers, as 100,000 people are expected to visit the small farming town of just over 6,000."
http://katu.com/features/total-eclip...00000-visitors

Our news paper has "Ranked" locations based on % of totality and they also list the current predicted risk of cloud cover: http://www.oregonlive.com/trending/2...incart_m-rpt-2
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another Oregon resident

and PLEASE if you are in Oregon, headed for Oregon, or know people in Oregon, read this one:
http://www.oregonlive.com/eclipse/20...t_parking.html

I worked in the world of wildland fire for about 15 years. YOU DO NOT WANT TO PLAN ON TRAVELING ON ANY OREGON ROADS between Saturday and Wednesday, anywhere close to that totality path. Just don't. I messaged my son this afternoon:
"DO MAKE SURE about Friday or so you have enough stuff in the house (food, extra water, dogfood, etc etc) and your van gassed up (preferably Wed. or Thu. -- full tank) so you do not have to go anywhere for several days -- like about Friday through the following Wednesday. Seriously, if you have to drive anywhere at all, you might be majorly screwed."


OTOH if you really want to see the eclipse in Oregon, here ya go:
http://www.oregonlive.com/eclipse/20...ituations.html
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Oregon road cams

For the eclipse days, but really for any day. Oregon road cams:
https://tripcheck.com/Pages/RCMap.asp#

RE: what the wildfire smoke is likely to do to the view of the eclipse? I'd bet a year's pay it will make the sun red, with incredible colored haze.
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Wildfires, smoke, other hazards

Your #1 source of accurate current fire info is the flight deck National Interagency Coordination Center at Boise.
https://gacc.nifc.gov/
From that page you can click a region on the map to get the regional coordination center. This is not just fire; the Incident Management System covers tornados, floods, earthquakes, allkinda national/natural disasters (they sent 3 national teams to 9/11 sites, for example -- the first non-military aircraft in the air after all U.S. air traffic was grounded). Click on intel if you've got time to go down the amazement rabbit hole.

RE: smoke and maps and such -- here's a collection of super mappage for the U.S. from a variety of sources: http://www.wildlandfire.com/fire-maps/
Anything from RSAC or the GACCs or ESRI is top-drawer info.

For lightning watchers (hello HAIL damage) check here:
http://www.vaisala.com/en/products/t...s/default.aspx

Years ago I was working INFO on a wildland fire in Oregon; we had reports of incoming bigass lightning approaching our fire. I logged in with the nice Vaisala people, paid for a one-hour subscription, and got live lightning strikes on a map of my area. Invaluable!!
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Thanks for sharing.

As an avid astronomer for 40 years, I have yet to see my first total solar eclipse. Nonetheless, its important not to confuse the 1% with being on the centerline or CL (where all the pain is going to be.)

The width of the eclipse track is something like 70 miles, and being a couple of miles off centerline will make very little difference to your experience except reduce the PIA factor. The only impact will be a couple of seconds reduction in totality. Pick a good spot that is pleasing and comfortable but close to the CL and you shouldn't go wrong.
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Old 08-15-2017, 09:29 AM   #83
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Wyoming Eclipse Forcast

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Here's another article about our participation in the event.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/14/s...onosphere.html
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