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Old 09-14-2006, 11:11 AM   #15
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Well, am I just getting really suspicious or does this SOUND legit? SIGH>>>if I did not get several of these a day I might actually fall for one....I hate to not give people the benefit of the doubt but it is so irritating...

I wrote back to this guy above that I will only take full payment in person in CASH CASH CASH CASH and then he can do whatever he wants as far as taking it away. And that I decided to up the price. And that he needs to use his spell checker. I think I am going to change my email address when the trailer is sold. I think probably I am letting the whole thing stress me out more than it should.

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Old 09-14-2006, 11:21 AM   #16
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Old 09-14-2006, 11:24 AM   #17
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Do these scams come from everywhere, or is it just that Nigeria really has an over abundance of these? Maybe, it is the SAME scammer sending me different ones. Or just many scammers. I just checked my mail and got another one!!!!!!!!ARGGGGGGGGHHHHH!
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Old 09-14-2006, 11:38 AM   #18
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Probably many scammers, in Nigeria or anywhere in Europe. Many of them operate out of English computer-cafes, where they can work fairly anonymously. If you search for info on busts on these scam artists, you'll learn alot about it. Actually, I wouldn't call them scam 'artists' because what they are doing is so blatently obvious. The bad english, the generic letters. Think, if someone wanted to buy your Airstream, they would have many more specific questions. These guys are cranking out these scam letters to ebayers and craiglisters all day long, they can't afford to take the time to make them specific. They troll them out by the hundreds, and hope one person takes the bait.

We have gotten several of these regarding our online toy business that say "we would like to buy all of your products, we shall arrange payments and shipment", blah blah blah. Bad english, too good to be true, and suspicious payment and shipping details. We have many customers around the world, and we know what legitimate offers to buy large amounts of merchandise look like (for example, we have several stores we supply with American toys in Europe), and they don't look like that!

I'm sick of these scammers...

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Old 09-14-2006, 02:06 PM   #19
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That is what is so amazing....real people interested in the trailer ask what the layout is or other "real" questions. The scam emails are so vague they don't even KNOW which unit they are inquiring about. I need to stop letting them get under my skin and hit the delete button, just like the other junk mail that comes through.

I keep hearing "craiglisters"....what is that?
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Old 09-14-2006, 03:13 PM   #20
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I keep hearing "craiglisters"....what is that?
Craig's list is an online for sale venue, among other things.
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Old 09-14-2006, 04:08 PM   #21
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Bull .. Ebay could use a system of verified identy to allow people to post or bid. Just like Paypal tries to do when you open a verified account. Then everything is only between identified persons. An occasional compromised account may occur but nothing like it is now. Of course they have a responsiblity.
Further clarification for you -- I didn't say that eBay didn't have a responsibility...I said they weren't at fault for this one particular issue.
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Old 09-14-2006, 06:10 PM   #22
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Gah! Sorry you're having such a nightmare selling the trailer...(mebee it don't wanna git sold!) People drive by the Ambassador all the time asking if it's for sale and for no apparent reason, I say 'no'. I would deal with the situation on a local level in the want/sell ads if you're getting scammers from Third World countries attacking you like mosquitos on a wildebeast in the middle of the veldt.
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Old 09-15-2006, 05:50 PM   #23
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I have had that happen lots with people coming up to ask if my other trailers were for sale. I think that Argosy is a more limited market, and this one is heavy and long at 27 foot. I have had people hoping it was lighter/shorter. I am sure the right home for it will come along has only been for sale a few weeks. I will try the newspaper eventually.
The scammer mosquitos seemed to have slowed....I at least have really had my eyes opened to just how widespread the problem is.
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Old 09-20-2006, 02:46 PM   #24
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I blame Ebay.
They do very little to protect anything other than their fee.
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Old 09-20-2006, 04:01 PM   #25
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2nd chance scam

hi- I guess there must be "boiler-rooms" all over Europe and Africa FULL of flunkies hacking into auction and for-sale and for-rent sites, sending out bogus offers to buy or sell. Just got one this week, a 2nd chance offer to buy a truck from about 30 miles away, except suddenly the return email address was something like ebay^ UK being United Kingdom I believe. And suddenly his name was Allen West, not Ross like when I talked to him on the phone. And suddenly he had moved, and the "car" was in storage, and I could only look at it If I paid him a $1,900 deposit to fly out and show it to me, blah blah blah. I screwed with him for a few emails, then got bored with the whole thing and told him to get a real job. I believe this is NOT the work of isolated thieves, that it is at the very least the work of organized crime, IF NOT organized terrorism. Pretty clever, really- first steal from those you hate, then use that money to sponsor who knows what kinds of terrorism both here and other places. Anyway- SCRUTINIZE all transactions on these websites, be skeptical, and lets cut off their flow of money. They are not hard to spot if you look at return addresses, slightly mis-spelled or punctuated web-site names, poor english syntax, strange excuses and demands, etc. Heads up!!
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Old 09-20-2006, 04:13 PM   #26
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I sold my Argosy on EBAY in mid March 2006 also. Within minutes of final sale I was contacted by peolpe who had been sent fraudulent EBAY 2nd Chance offers....

I also posted this issue on this form:

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Old 09-21-2006, 11:38 AM   #27
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I just got another offer, this guy had good spelling, but he asked kindly if when I emailed him back to remind him which rv I was talking about....

I wrote him back I only sell to people who come to my house and pay CASH.

I agree, it is more like organized crime or something for these people to spend all their time trying to scam people.

I was amazed at how many bidders got the ebay second chance offers for dirt cheap on just my trailer. It is not even logical that someone would sell their rv to someone for way less than the bidding got up to on ebay. I am still debating putting it back on ebay or not because of the hassle. If I did put it on ebay, I would clarify IN the auction that I won't be sending any 2nd chance offers, so that would at least warn bidders.

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