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12-15-2021, 04:54 PM
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I was taught P E M D A S, not P E M&D, A&S.
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12-15-2021, 04:57 PM
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As a FYI, I saw this problem on another forum and it generated 100+ pages of argument and no mutually agreed answer. I thought it might provoke some nice argument here.
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12-15-2021, 05:21 PM
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#1743
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2 Rivet Member
Westport
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis C
As a FYI, I saw this problem on another forum and it generated 100+ pages of argument and no mutually agreed answer. I thought it might provoke some nice argument here.
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Funny....I double checked myself after you said the answer was 2. I have an iPad calculator app called "MyScript Calculator". You just write the equation out as you would with a pencil. In this case the Apple Pencil. Right or wrong....who knows but the app also says it's 288.
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12-15-2021, 05:24 PM
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288 may be the right answer! I still see how it could be interpreted as 2, but the 288 argument is gaining steam here…
EDIT: I just ran it in Excel, and it also says 288
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12-15-2021, 05:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
West Lake Hills
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Software developer here…all the way back to FORTRAN. And briefly a math major. Computers will:
P, E, M&D, A&S.
Left to right within each.
Don’t know how the teachers learn in it teachers colleges. DW’s teacher training is too long in the tooth to be useful in this case.
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12-15-2021, 05:57 PM
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#1746
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Rivet Master
2023 28' International
Mercer County
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis C
I can see your argument, but I argue that it should be:
48/2*(9+3)
Parentheses
48 / 2 * 12
No Exponents
Multiplication operation 2*12 = 24
48/24
Division operation
48/24 = 2
Why would you go left to right as opposed to the mathematical order of operations?
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You go left to right because M&D and A&S are equal precedence when it comes to ordering of operations.
https://www.khanacademy.org/math/cc-...ations-example
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12-15-2021, 06:22 PM
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Thread just went full geek.
Never go full geek.
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12-15-2021, 07:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
West Lake Hills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by propchef
Thread just went full geek.
Never go full geek.
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“I Am Sam. Sean Penn went full…something…went home empty-handed.” Kirk Lazarus.
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12-15-2021, 07:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fungus
Software developer here…all the way back to FORTRAN. And briefly a math major. Computers will:
P, E, M&D, A&S.
Left to right within each.
Don’t know how the teachers learn in it teachers colleges. DW’s teacher training is too long in the tooth to be useful in this case.
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Wow Fortran...A Fortran class was where I met my wife. That was so long ago we were writing each individual line on a punch card.
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12-15-2021, 08:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
West Lake Hills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimbrey
Wow Fortran...A Fortran class was where I met my wife. That was so long ago we were writing each individual line on a punch card.
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IBM 029 card punch machine. I can still hear the ka-chunk.
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12-15-2021, 08:57 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
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407 accounting machine with thousands of relays inside, card reader, line printer, programmed by patch panels. Shook the room when it was running. Ours chewed holes into the concrete floor under it.
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'The Silver HamShack' ('07 International 22FB CCD 75th Anniversary)
Multiple Yaesu Ham Radios inside and many antennae sprouting from roof, ProPride hitch, Prodigy P2 controller.
2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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12-18-2021, 12:16 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
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In the spirit of the times, the answer to the math problem is 67.4. I will not disclose how I got the answer and I know it is right regardless of “mathematics”. The clue is take the number of illuminati (cannot be disclosed at this time) and multiply by Avocado’s Constant, a number related to how many times the earth revolves around the moon in a parsec.
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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12-18-2021, 12:19 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
West Lake Hills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gene
In the spirit of the times, the answer to the math problem is 67.4. I will not disclose how I got the answer and I know it is right regardless of “mathematics”. The clue is take the number of illuminati (cannot be disclosed at this time) and multiply by Avocado’s Constant, a number related to how many times the earth revolves around the moon in a parsec.
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Mathematics is something you have to believe whether is true (or not).
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12-18-2021, 12:26 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fungus
Mathematics is something you have to believe whether is true (or not).
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True (or not). The answer I got using generally unacceptable principals has been tested by numerous unprofessional commentators who also can diagnose any problem with any RV or tow vehicle in moments regardless of the complexity of the so-called problem. These principals and their assistants, vice principals, are quite concerned whether you got to school on time today. Stand in the corner for one hour.
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12-18-2021, 01:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gene
True (or not). The answer I got using generally unacceptable principals has been tested by numerous unprofessional commentators who also can diagnose any problem with any RV or tow vehicle in moments regardless of the complexity of the so-called problem. These principals and their assistants, vice principals, are quite concerned whether you got to school on time today. Stand in the corner for one hour.
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Do these commentators favor 1/2 ton trucks or heavy duty trucks as a tow vehicle?
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12-18-2021, 06:14 PM
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Remember, Safety Third
1973 27' Overlander
Catfish Corners
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48
2 * (9 + 3)
48
2 * 12
48
24
2
or, you could try an easier one: Solve for X, or is it y?
Jim
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12-18-2021, 06:43 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' International
West Lake Hills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis C
Do these commentators favor 1/2 ton trucks or heavy duty trucks as a tow vehicle?
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Yes.
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12-19-2021, 06:52 AM
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Rivet Master
1987 25' Sovereign
Fort Collins
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis C View Post
Do these commentators favor 1/2 ton trucks or heavy duty trucks as a tow vehicle?
Yes.
But some disagree. One example is the Yugo Girl half track.
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“We are confronted with insurmountable opportunities.”
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12-21-2021, 07:29 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
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Somewhere there is a Yugo that has never failed at anything, has hundreds of thousands of miles on it and tows a Bambi.
As for the commentating computer experts, possibly all named Consuelo, they or she agrees that 1/2 ton and heavy duty trucks can, and asks in return, will they?
Tomorrow in Grand Junction there will be 2 more seconds of daylight. If I were there, I would dance naked on Main St. to welcome the return of the golden orb, but instead I will be across the mountains eating too much in the spirit of the Solstice.
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The Airstream is sold; a 2016 Nash 24M replaced it.
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12-24-2021, 08:33 AM
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Ready-to-Travel
2012 30' International
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Still trying to figure out how to answer the comment, "Gosh - you play a lot of golf! You must be pretty good by now!"
Sigh...
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