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12-23-2012, 08:36 AM
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Rivet Master 
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,971
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The Airstream/Craigslist War
There is apparently a declared war going on between an unknown "Flagger" and a certain CL user....probably a scammer. I have been seeing the continued flagging and removal of Airstream for sale ads....typical flood the country with cheap Bambi ads, Vintage small Airstreams, ....you know the ones. Not to be confused with the Flagger who does the dirty work just to "hide" a good deal for himself. Well, they have expanded the war to name calling and EBAY involvement. Attack/counter attack. DORKS!
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"If it can't be reduced, reused, repaired, rebuilt, refurbished, refinished, resold, recycled or composted
then it should be restricted, redesigned or removed from production."
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12-23-2012, 09:02 AM
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Rivet Master 
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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I hate to be this ignorant, but what exactly are you talking about? Thanks!
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12-23-2012, 10:03 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSueMac
I hate to be this ignorant, but what exactly are you talking about? Thanks!
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I will second that request. For those of who do not use Texting as our means of communication an expanded description might help.
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2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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12-23-2012, 10:04 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,971
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Go to any of the Craigalist search sites...or any large city site....like LA. search for a Bambi....or any 17ft Airstream. They are gone....removed by flagging, which can be done by anyone...instantaneously. These two are duking it out by the flagger using SearchTempest to locate all of the "sellers" ads. He then flags them all. The seller calls him on it, resubmits the ads and again the flagger blocks them all. If your new on the Forums you probably don't have a clue on Tempest or the searches that go on....it's a subculture of sorts.
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"If it can't be reduced, reused, repaired, rebuilt, refurbished, refinished, resold, recycled or composted
then it should be restricted, redesigned or removed from production."
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12-23-2012, 10:18 AM
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1975 27' Overlander
Twin Cities
, Minnesota
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 513
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It takes several flags to eliminate an ad on craigslist.
CL wont tell you the exact number but I'm guessing a dozen or more.
Not just one person can do it.
I don't follow the AS ads there but I do follow the Ford tractor ads closely.
In the last year or so there has been a scammer who will post an ad like for a Ford tractor that's usually worth say $25K for about $9K. It's a pretty obvious scam and usually gets flagged right away.
It is likely someone is doing similar scam ads for Airstreams.
So you just gotta go by the old addage "if it seems too good to be true it probably is."
I'll tell you what gets me about CL ads is people who use all those darned keywords so their ad comes up in more searches.
Like if they are selling a John Deere tractor they'll add the keywords, Ford, Allis Chalmers, Oliver, Farmall, Chevy, Dodge, etc, etc.
Or in the case of campers, etc a guy will be selling some crummy old Winnebago and adds the keywords Bambi, Airstream, basecamp, Fleetwood, etc so it shows up in your AS search.
I ALWAYS flag those ads.
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12-23-2012, 10:54 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Originally Posted by Ultradog
In the last year or so there has been a scammer who will post an ad like for a Ford tractor that's usually worth say $25K for about $9K. It's a pretty obvious scam and usually gets flagged right away.
It is likely someone is doing similar scam ads for Airstreams.
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I remember seeing an eBay ad auto posted in this forum for a 2012 27fb Flying Cloud for $20k and at first I was really ticked off knowing what I just spent on mine, then I thought, that has to be a scam. So this "subculture" is a sort of cat and mouse game between scammers and flaggers?
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12-23-2012, 01:12 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,971
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"If it can't be reduced, reused, repaired, rebuilt, refurbished, refinished, resold, recycled or composted
then it should be restricted, redesigned or removed from production."
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12-23-2012, 01:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Melody Ranch
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All I get is a page that will not load.
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MICHAEL
Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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12-23-2012, 03:01 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,971
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works for me...try again.
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"If it can't be reduced, reused, repaired, rebuilt, refurbished, refinished, resold, recycled or composted
then it should be restricted, redesigned or removed from production."
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12-23-2012, 04:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Melody Ranch
works for me...try again.
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Thank you, it is working now. I did not know that such a search site existed.
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MICHAEL
Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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12-23-2012, 04:46 PM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
, More Than Anywhere Else
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 10,868
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The lesson to take home from this…
If you really have an Airstream to sell, don't list it on Craigslist; find somewhere more reputable, such as the AirForums Classifieds. That way you avoid the whole Hatfields & McCoys experience.
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I thought getting old would take longer!
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12-23-2012, 06:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 790
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Protagonist
The lesson to take home from this…
If you really have an Airstream to sell, don't list it on Craigslist; find somewhere more reputable, such as the AirForums Classifieds. That way you avoid the whole Hatfields & McCoys experience.
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Perhaps, but I sure am glad my seller didn't feel that way.
Craigslist is a wonderful site that allows people to make quick cash and doesn't cost a dime to do so. You just have to use common sense for the most part.
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12-23-2012, 07:35 PM
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
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When there is money to be made the sharks feed. When there is big money to be made they feed heavily and will stop at nothing to get to the meat. It has taken the joy right out of my Airstream experience.
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12-23-2012, 07:44 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
1993 30' Excella
Lakeland
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 343
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Airstream sale
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Originally Posted by Melody Ranch
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WOW there are a lot of Airstream for sale in Texas yunga (that was a double wow  )
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12-23-2012, 07:44 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,637
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 62overlander
When there is money to be made the sharks feed. When there is big money to be made they feed heavily and will stop at nothing to get to the meat. It has taken the joy right out of my Airstream experience.
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Agreed. I used to love to use Jaxed Mash search site & they quelched that one. I had my '86 Sovereign listed on CL and constantly got flagged. I gave up.
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1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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12-24-2012, 03:57 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 28' Safari
saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2010
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I've used Ebay classified which is also free and without those problems and with good success.
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12-24-2012, 06:13 AM
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Rivet Master
1982 34' Limited
Brunswick
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beckybillrae
Agreed. I used to love to use Jaxed Mash search site & they quelched that one. I had my '86 Sovereign listed on CL and constantly got flagged. I gave up. |
Did you ever end up selling it?
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2000 Excursion V10 4x4
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12-24-2012, 02:54 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,637
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Quote:
Originally Posted by c_lewis77
Did you ever end up selling it?
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As of right now, no. I have a buyer who needs to wait until after the 1st of the year for tax purposes. We'll see! But it wasn't through CL.
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Becky
1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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12-24-2012, 04:40 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
1977 31' Excella 500
Los angeles
, California
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 201
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If you prefer to sell or respond to CL ads use your phone number or an email you don't care about for contact. If someone asks "can you please send more pictures of...." When you respond they now have your email address and before you know it you are getting tons of spam email because your ad is linked to your email. This is how spammers get your email adress. they spend all day responding to ads. I sell a lot through eBay and CL just choose your method of communication carefully
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01-25-2013, 12:33 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,971
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Scammers are back IN FORCE
I thought I had finally come up with the 56 Airstream I have been searching for. I am also well aware of the scammers so I watch carefully so as not to let my enthusiasm get the best of me. Here we go......
Great !! 55 Airstream Cruiser - $11500 (Detroit )
Then I get the reply....alarms go off big time. I am still looking for my dream 56....it's just not here.
Still available and I am sorry for the late answer but for some reason your email ended up in my spam folder and I don't check my spam folder very often. Unfortunately I am not home right now because my sister was involved in a car accident last week and suffered a head trauma so I had to come here and take care of my nephew until the doctors investigate her and make sure she's alright. I don't mean to impose and this is no excuse for anything, I was just explaining my situation. I'm selling this through AST anyway so the sale has nothing to do with my situation.
I believe you know what AST is if you are selling or buying online often but if you don't, no problem I'll be happy to walk you through the process. Drop me an email if you are still interested and I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have.
Thanks
- Melanie
Crooks!
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