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Old 08-13-2005, 05:29 AM   #15
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never had these problems with bill clinton
Bill Clinton wasn't an oil man, from Texas. He had his own problems, though. Who's to say how things might be different, with someone different at the helm. Our gas prices might be lower, but we also might have needed to learn to speak Arabic. But we'll never know.
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Old 08-13-2005, 07:13 AM   #16
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We should have learned from our history in the late 60's and early 70's, but we just keep repeating it. You just can't fight a war over seas and have a good economy back home. You can have one or they other, but not both.
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Yeah, it's funny that on Fortune's top 500 list, Wal-Mart is the largest ($) company followed by three oil companies, then GM. You'd think that if a company's raw material cost went up their profit margin would narrow, correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't the oil companies been making record profits? Somebody up the ladder (i.e. Capitol Hill) needs to wake up. Nice they are spending a record amount on that transportation bill that just passed, shame people won't be able to afford to enjoy the improved roads
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Old 08-13-2005, 08:12 AM   #18
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I parked my motor home(50 gls), I/O boat(25 gls) and tow vehicle(2X18 gls), and took the insurance off. I am using the insurance refund to buy gas for the BMW. I am also draining the gas out of the above tanks for the BMW. When all the money and recycled gas is gone, I may get a bicycle. My company wants me to drive 1500 miles to a job location. I told them they would have to fly me.
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Old 08-13-2005, 08:37 AM   #19
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There is a gas shortage because of the problems at refineries being shut down. Here is a way to fix that, and drive prices down.
Everyone in the US park their vehicles every Saturday for a month.
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Old 08-13-2005, 08:54 AM   #20
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There is a solution to the high cost of diesel and that is Bio-Diesel. Of course the oil industry as it structured now has no way to profit from it. However, the soybean farmer sure would see a nice return as well as a boon to the rural economy that supports the industry. There would also be a need for all that waste oil from the thousands of french friers in our country. Diesel engines can run on a blend of bio-diesel and pure diesel like we use alcohol or even on pure bio- diesel. I have a new Isuzu diesel engine in my MH and have been told it can be run on bio diesel, if only I can find it. Imagine a home grown fuel that we can just keep growing more of and also one that is now considered a waste. This is a solution which must be researched and not ignored any longer. If you want to learn more I encourage you to do a search on Google just type in "Bio- Diesel."

Remember that the high cost of diesel is not just hurting us RV owners it is hitting almost everything we buy. Transportation costs are just passed on to the consumer whether it be by the pizza delivery guy or by the trucking industry.
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Old 08-13-2005, 09:07 AM   #21
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Bio diesel

We are looking for a new tow vehicle and I never would have considered a diesel engine before I started hearing about Bio-diesel. A friend tells me that here in Seattle, the metro bus line is being converted. The oddest part about it is the smell. Like french fries driving by.
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Old 08-13-2005, 09:10 AM   #22
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Gee, I' thought the more you buy of a product, the lower the unit cost. Hummm. So much for haggling, even at a garage sale these days. Can't wait for the entire shipping industry to start using those same ads the domestic auto manufactures are saying:
"You Pay What We Pay", Or The Goods Won't Be On There Way !
(Diesel here is now $3.04, an increase .34 in 2 days)
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Old 08-13-2005, 09:30 AM   #23
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Regular unleaded will be $3.00 or more a gallon by Christmas. $4.00 by next summer.

I will have to sell my Airstreams, my Cub Cadets. My property taxes keep going up and my pay keeps the same (for 5 years now). I have added two kids in that time ( I did put an end to that "problem" )and my wife is out of the work force. ( I want her home for the kids )

"The economy is recovering very well" I hear on the news. BS!! I will have to get a second job just to afford gas to get to work. The jokers here in my county want to raise property taxes again?!?!!?!

"Amazingly affordable at $350,000.00" Is one of the home builder adds around here too. Who the hell can afford that kind of mortgage and gas too?!?!?!!?!?

Sorry had to vent......
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Old 08-13-2005, 09:49 AM   #24
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Till, your right! Those affordable homes near you, are being financed by more than just one generation in their families, just like here. When it comes to car and truck ownership, I have always looked at my cost per mile, so when I think of the many folks, that have bought SUV's over the past several years just for local transportation, I Have to believe they were not thinking of cost per mile, but rather loan payment per month, and now face fuel payments, that are now higher in cost. My work car is .21 cents per mile, while my pickup is .35 cents per mile, with current fuel costs. Glad there paid for. Jeff
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You all have good points, Ed especially. Just consume less. Then it doesn't matter what the gas prices are. I can afford to look away from the pump while filling my Chevy S-10 because it's small & it's towing a '62 Bambi.

And if we aren't headed out of town, I run errands on my bicycle. I use about a tank a month with the Chevy. I think cell phones are annoying & too expensive, so I don't have one.

You might all come up with reasons why you MUST use beaucoup gas, but every choice you make is exactly that: a choice. You could make different choices. Till could have his wife work so there would be more money flowing into the house, but he chooses to do without material goods in favor of life's intangibles. At some point in history, humans got by without every convenience that we take for granted. We can do it again.
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Here's one many cost per mile calculators out there:
http://www.metrocommuterservices.org/costcal.asp
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Old 08-13-2005, 10:33 AM   #27
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There is a solution to the high cost of diesel and that is Bio-Diesel. the soybean farmer sure would see a nice return as well as a boon to the rural economy that supports the industry. .
ahhh......chaplain, i see you have been shirking your duty....the farmers could use a little liquid sunshine....
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That's about the funniest thing I've read lately.....thanks!
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