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09-28-2009, 09:43 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,328
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State Park Crime Soars
This was the headline on a Sacramento Bee newspaper. We were shopping yesterday when I spotted it in rack. We don't subscribe to the paper so I didn't read the article but the headline is most likely the whole story. We camp in Forest Service AND State Parks. The news over this weekend has been that Calif Park closings have been spared for a while. However, drastic cuts in services will be a reality. How do you campers who like to boondock in govt. parks cope? I'm sure private campgrounds will see an increase in reservations. Boondocking in govt. parks is much more appealing to us as more are far more beautiful and offer more camping experiences. How will you deal with this increased threat.?
Neil.
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1966 Trade Wind
1971 Buick Centurion convertible
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455 cid
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09-28-2009, 09:51 AM
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Rivet Master
2000 31' Land Yacht
Central
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,489
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We have found the best sites in State and Federal Parks, private cg's really only offer what we have at home.
Add more security lights, make sure doors lock, park only when other campers are present, check to see if park has security gates and are used at night.
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09-28-2009, 10:43 AM
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Rivet Master
1961 24' Tradewind
1969 29' Ambassador
1970 21' Globetrotter
Jamestown
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,783
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In 40 years of boondocking and probably hundreds of nights in rest areas and truck stops when I was delivering new trailers i have only had one nervous moment, and that occurred at noon in a busy rest area.
Besides the advice in the last post I do suggest you NOT display one of those signs that says "The Jones's from Wherever. It is an invitation for some one to knock on your door knowing your name and leading you to think it is some one you know.
It is pretty much a common sense matter. The bad guys don't know if you are carrying enough fire power for a war or if there is a herd attack dogs in your trailer. Likewise most of the trouble makers will be near the cities.
There is a risk in anything we do. Personally I am more uncomfortable at the mall than in the remote areas.
If something in a spot triggers your discomfort follow your instincts and leave.
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09-28-2009, 10:46 AM
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Rivet Master
1989 29' Land Yacht
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,804
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Security
WE boondock all the time in Arizona and like all the good old U.S.A we have our crime problems. We have had a generator cut off and stolen at a campground with one way in and out with a gate while I was in the trailer.
Now we have a motion detector security system that we can put outside the trailer.We do not leave generator out at night and when it is out it is locked with a alarm cable that goes off if cable is cut.We now are also armed.
In southern Airizona illigal immigrant and drug runners are the problem.We have hade one park ranger killed by them in Organ Pipe Cactus Natl Mon.
Here is a site with some good basic security info for when you are camping
Recreational Security
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09-28-2009, 01:52 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Land of fruits and nuts
, California
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 307
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I pack heat. Lots of it. I also am very aware of my surroundings. Being aware and confident is key. If your don't have a clue what is going on around you, the criminals can tell--they prefer easy, clueless victims. Don't be one. And learn how to defend yourself with proper tools designed for such.
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09-28-2009, 02:06 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 29' Land Yacht
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Airstream01
I pack heat. Lots of it. I also am very aware of my surroundings. Being aware and confident is key. If your don't have a clue what is going on around you, the criminals can tell--they prefer easy, clueless victims. Don't be one. And learn how to defend yourself with proper tools designed for such.
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RIGHT ON
All gun are always loaded.
Never point a gun at anything you are not willing to destroy.
Keep your finger off the trigger untill your sights are on target.
Know your target and what is behind and around it.
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09-28-2009, 02:35 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Land of fruits and nuts
, California
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 307
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmini
RIGHT ON
All gun are always loaded.
Never point a gun at anything you are not willing to destroy.
Keep your finger off the trigger untill your sights are on target.
Know your target and what is behind and around it.
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I should also add, the firearm is the last resort. Don't even brandish the thing if you don't intend to use it if necessary. Should go without saying, but....
Also, just because they did it in a movie does not mean you should too....
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09-28-2009, 03:17 PM
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INSANITY CENTRAL
1986 32' Excella
Airstream Funeral Coach
Citrus Heights
, California
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,108
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check out my avatar- pretty much sums it up
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Proud Appellation American
Vine View Heights is now closed.
YETI ( 65 Quart )
IGLOO (Ice Cube, 50 Quart )
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09-28-2009, 03:32 PM
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Islander
2005 28' International CCD
Deer Harbor
, ORCAS ISLAND WA
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 981
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packing heat
this trailer protected by smith and wesson......with the deteriorating economy...one needs to be on the toes
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09-28-2009, 04:01 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2000 34' Limited
Somewhere in Western
, North Carolina
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 252
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My grandmother had a sign on her back door that read:
"Beware of flying objects, some may be bullets!"
Instead of beware of DOG.
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09-28-2009, 05:15 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Commercial Member
Jonesboro
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 266
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I think the idea of leaving a pair of size 12 muddy boots and an extra large dog water bowl just outside your door might help.
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09-28-2009, 06:49 PM
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Rivet Master
1973 27' Overlander
Loganville
, Georgia
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,741
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Kristy:
What an awesome idea. That should get their attention
Brian
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09-28-2009, 08:10 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 29' Land Yacht
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristi Foster
I think the idea of leaving a pair of size 12 muddy boots and an extra large dog water bowl just outside your door might help.
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Right now at 6'2" 200 lbs I wear size 13. NO joke
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09-28-2009, 09:04 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Dexer
, Michigan
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 314
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I've got to tell you I feel a whole lot safer in our Airstream at night than I did in our pop-up camper.
We used to laugh about the pop-up having a 'lock'. Hello the bunk ends are bungied down and the door surrounded by velcro
We aren't 'packin' but we do have red and green Winchester shot gun shells for our awning lights. Nothing says 'welcome' like a Winchester!
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09-28-2009, 09:38 PM
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Moderator
1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,255
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09-28-2009, 10:05 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Land of fruits and nuts
, California
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 307
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tksbaskets
We aren't 'packin' but we do have red and green Winchester shot gun shells for our awning lights. Nothing says 'welcome' like a Winchester!
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Please tell me where you got them? I would love to get some.
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09-28-2009, 10:23 PM
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Site Team
1964 26' Overlander
1964 19' Globetrotter
OlyPen
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,936
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmini
Right now at 6'2" 200 lbs I wear size 13. NO joke
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Those must be tough to store in an Airstream - big tripping hazard on the door mat
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09-28-2009, 10:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2001 30' Excella
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 838
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jimmini
Right now at 6'2" 200 lbs I wear size 13. NO joke
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Dang Jimmini... I wear a 13 too! we could have really produced some big shoes last time we were camping. I love and remember what you told me about keeping the generator inside the trailer.... " I don't want to have to explain why there is a person shot in the back outside my trailer" (Jimmini 2009)
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Air #22673
WBCCI# 2731
Four Corners Unit
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09-28-2009, 10:31 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2005 16' International CCD
2009 23' International
Bainbridge Island
, Washington
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 70
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While we carry a handgun in the trailer (just not in Canada!), it's my weapon of last resort. Much more easily accessed is the good ol' CO2 fire extinguisher. Possibly more effective in an enclosed space and a lot friendlier to your eardrums. Cleanup afterwards is probably about the same and the legal repercussions should be a lot less.
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09-28-2009, 10:48 PM
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Hillgenbergonlocation
1986 32' Excella
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 22
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My thoughts on this issue is if you had big dogs like I do and heard their bark I think you wold think twice. LOL
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