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Old 07-09-2013, 05:04 PM   #29
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We no longer even try to rely on RV parks' WiFi systems. If it works well, we are always pleasantly surprised. We use a Verizon hot spot device that works great...and always better than the campground's. I have a feeling that many campgrounds offering WiFi are pathetically under-prepared and not all that techno-savvy. I probably know more about their system than they do, and if that's the case...they are really in trouble. (There are exceptions ... I know Lynn at Monte Verde knows his stuff, for example.)

By the way, I never apologize for wanting to be "wired" while we camp and travel. It enables me to do work if necessary and stay in touch with clients and friends ... and for us that equals more frequent and longer camping trips! So it's a very good thing for us!
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:09 PM   #30
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Another Verison hot spot user. Wifi is usually just a draw, kinda like a loss leader in retail.
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:27 PM   #31
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I too feel for the campground owners. Supporting a system that offers genuine high speed connections to a multitude of users over a large area is an expensive proposition.

As far as connectivity is concerned: I own a small business. My clients expect me to be available whenever they need to talk to me. If I'd like to continue to reap the benefits of being my own boss, I'd better make sure my clients are happy and if that means being available while camping, so be it.
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:15 PM   #32
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I used to depend on campground wifi's but for an additional $20/month, I have a 4g aircard with security on my Verizon bill. Best money I've ever spent, in campgrounds and airports, no worries about some digbat glamming on my internet and I have never had a problem with getting service.
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Old 07-10-2013, 07:55 AM   #33
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If you're going to gripe about the amenities of camping, you could start with the camper itself...

Let's face it, staying in an RV is not exactly the height of "roughing it." From there, camping means different things to different people, and there's room for everyone.

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Old 07-10-2013, 01:34 PM   #34
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Apropos wifi AGAIN, we just lost another signal booster during yesterday's thunderstorm. Fourth time's a charm! Last one went last summer from a direct lightening strike. New one ordered with scheduled arrival next week, and another $400 down the tubes. At least people will be able to access the net if they walk up closer to the office.

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Added note: When we were hit last summer, I was in Santa Fe with the AS -- and was hit by lightening myself. I looked again at the strike point this morning while working on the polish job. It didn't penetrate the aluminum, but did create a spot that looks like somebody touched a welder to it momentarily.
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Old 07-10-2013, 02:56 PM   #35
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Blocking netflix streaming would probably solve 90% of the problem on many of these wifi networks. It floors me when I see people doing this when they know there is only so much bandwidth to be shared by everybody.
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Old 07-10-2013, 03:19 PM   #36
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Blocking netflix streaming would probably solve 90% of the problem on many of these wifi networks. It floors me when I see people doing this when they know there is only so much bandwidth to be shared by everybody.
I think it's a faulty assumption that most people with a computer know much about how the computer or the network actually work.

On top of that you have the human tendency to think "Oh, it'll be OK if I'm the only one doing it."
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:12 PM   #37
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This is a very interesting conversation. I too try and work while I'm on vacation, being self-employed, I only need a laptop and a phone. I've been tethering my phone to the laptop for years. I can't use public WiFi anyway because I can't risk my clients' sensitive data.

I would think that most of us have a smartphone by now. I read somewhere that 70% of Americans over 18 now have smartphones. You can "Tether" or create a "Hot Spot" with almost any of these phones. You can either pay the extra $20 for the service or work around it with some clever programming. Jailbreaking, Rooting, which is basically a "hot wire" your phone to provide internet to your laptop for free. My new phone has clocked speeds up to 23.93Mbps on AT&T 4G LTE making any need for WiFi obsolete. Granted, I don't need that much bandwidth to send email correspondence for work, but I could watch movies all night with that speed.

I think Lynn is right, and I believe the future is going to be phones, tablets, and laptops that don't rely on WiFi at all. And as proven here, by so many examples. They can't be counted on, and they're slow. Ironically, even at my house now, my phone internet service is faster than my WiFi.

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Finally, my own suspicion … is that campground wifi will go the way of telephone hookups at sites. Less than a decade ago, that was all the rage, so campgrounds rushed to lay telephone lines to sites …. Within a very few years, nobody wanted it anymore, so the expense of wiring it up was a waste …. Today, you see more and more people who use their cell service for Internet, eschewing campground wifi.

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Old 07-10-2013, 05:55 PM   #38
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...and of course you have the other side of the coin. The most connected place in the world (as I understand it) is Seoul, Korea where WiFi is beyond ubiquitous. I find it discouraging that in most European cities my credit cards won't work as they've gone to RFID. Sweden is considering eliminating cash completely. I think it's a scandal that I pay as much as I do for internet access and don't ever expect to see fiber optic service. My experience in campgrounds parallels what others have posted. Even with a WiFi ranger, most times the signal that it picks up is too weak to establish an internet connection.
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Old 07-10-2013, 06:52 PM   #39
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Right now I'm posting from my iPhone because the james island SC county park that promised wifi at my site hasn't had it for the 2 days we have been here. I got no apology; I got ; "it's AT&T 's fault!" I call BS.

I am self employed and work online. No Internet = no work = no pay. I called ahead to make sure I could get internet to a few hours' work in each nite. We don't travel enough to make mifi worth while.

BTW- it's $48/nite here.
I will also mention the showers are disgustingly filthy.
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You can get a program called "tether" for your laptop to link your iPhone Internet connection. Costs $30 a year, works well and is legal. Go to their website of the same name.
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:36 PM   #41
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We don't travel enough to make mifi worth while.
Not sure if there's a similar deal in the US, but my LTE Modem with Rogers costs me $5/months for minimal/no use. I then pay for data as I go, at fairly reasonable rates.

If you could get something similar it might solve your issue. Not that that's an excuse for not supplying advertised services.
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:56 PM   #42
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I read last year about a new technology that uses light through fiberoptics in a new way that massively boosts efficiency...ill try and find the news piece - but it has actually been used...and will in 3 years time be used likely in industrial and perhaps some business applications..

Concept was that the signal could reach out wireless for about a mile if I recall....and the speeds were just absurdly fast...I recall the stat was like 6 DVD's worth of data per minute or something like that....(dont quote me)...point is it was massive....

Its only a matter of time till we have indeed something that makes the whole wifi concept become irrelevant...cool stuff..ill try and find the article.
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