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07-22-2015, 10:47 AM
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#861
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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It's the ones under 25' as I wrote above.
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07-22-2015, 11:39 AM
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#862
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2 Rivet Member
2015 19' Flying Cloud
Ashland
, Kentucky
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 88
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Well, let's chime in on this . . .
I've got a late model Mercedes Diesel, with the fancy BlueTec to improve mileage, and while it does easily get 32 mpg at 70 mph on cruise, it only averages 18 mpg pulling my 19 footer - so, am I selfish? Don't think so. Just a reality check. (BTW - I have seen well over 20 mpg going downhill so there's that!)
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Beastie - 19'FC
The Big Beast - GMC Yukon w/Max Tow Package
Held together with the Husky Centerline Hitch
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07-22-2015, 11:47 AM
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#863
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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Clarification;
I get about 11 mpg at 60 mph, and about 9 mpg at AZ, TX, and NM speed limits...
No guilt...
If I thought that CO2 was a bad thing, (I don't), I would point out that my "old" truck and trailers production "carbon footprint" amortized over many years is quite low, reducing my contribution greatly.
It takes a lot of electricity to make aluminum... #JustSayin.
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07-22-2015, 12:02 PM
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#864
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King of the Zebra Speedo
Obrien
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 1,439
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cwf
Red,
Yessireeee! I make deep dark IPAs thru "girly beer" which is Gluten free for my wife.
Our son and future Daughter-in-Law put the following on their wedding invitations...:
"Join us for the reception, .....(etc).... And home brew by our Dads.."
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I like a beer with a bit of body. Corona is my "light" flavored, sit on the beach beer, Yeungling Black and Tan are my standard go to beer...which works out well, because my son in law says he doesn't like to "chew his beer", which leaves all the Black and Tans for me, while he drinks a girly lime flavored light something or anotherweiser... Went to a pub in Gainesville called Stubbies and Steins and tried a Pensacola IPA... Good lord what a strong flavor. Good stuff, had to sip it though.
And, congrats on the wedding...
-Red, talking beer...
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07-23-2015, 08:16 PM
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#865
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,223
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Saw 13 to 14 mpg on the flats towing a new empty 23D behind the Mercedes E320 CDI at 65 or lower depending on speed limit signs.
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TV - 2012 Dodge 2500 4x4 Cummins HO, automatic, Centramatics, Kelderman level ride airbag suspension, bed shell
2014 31' Classic w/ twin beds, 50 amp service, 1000 watt solar system, Centramatics, Tuson TPMS, 12" disc brakes, 16" tires & wheels
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07-24-2015, 07:55 PM
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#866
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Remember, Safety Third
1973 27' Overlander
Catfish Corners
, Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 5,720
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Had a BBQ chicken pizza for supper tonight. Sounds weird. Tastes surprisingly good. Fig Newtons and Scotch for dessert.
Been that kind of WEEK. Y'all have a great weekend.
Jim
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07-24-2015, 08:03 PM
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#867
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Pizza here too....Honey Brown & Oreo's.
Bob
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07-24-2015, 08:11 PM
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#868
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Full Time Adventurer
2007 27' International CCD FB
Nomadic
, USA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 2,748
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I used to make the common sense insults, until I realized that common sense is only common to what you know. What's common in America, might not be common sense in say Germany.
It might be common sense to never go anywhere in Seattle without an umbrella, but to someone else, that's not common sense.
Although, there are a lot of things, that you would hope would be universal sense. But sadly, they are not.
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07-24-2015, 09:08 PM
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#869
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Living Riveted since 2013
2016 Interstate Lounge Ext
Green Cove Springs
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 8,210
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Funny thing about that - no Seattle native would ever be seen with an umbrella. Fleece and Gore-Tex is all they use.
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07-24-2015, 10:20 PM
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#870
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4 Rivet Member
2006 23' Safari SE
Nevada City
, California
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 265
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannonball
"Nutter Butter Bloomin' Onions". I am applying for a booth at the State Fair.
Cannonball, Deep in the Heart of Texas!
WBCCI #4387, Air #84080
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Deep fried of course
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07-25-2015, 09:27 PM
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#871
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Rivet Master
2019 25' International
Traverse City
, Michigan
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 594
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slowmover
Already have. It's a question of perspective, mainly. It's not a question of what the trailer is capable of doing behind the right tow vehicle. That's what has a few in knots.
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Hmm...if the perspective is MPG and MPG is the result of an equation, please give us the details. What vehicle towing say, a loaded FC20, would provide consistent 20+ MPG?
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07-26-2015, 02:39 PM
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#872
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Rivet Master
2002 31' Classic
Currently Looking...
Monroe
, Iowa
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 649
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TCwheels
Hmm...if the perspective is MPG and MPG is the result of an equation, please give us the details. What vehicle towing say, a loaded FC20, would provide consistent 20+ MPG?
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I don't think the length or the weight of the trailer makes much difference.
Many years ago, in the early '70s I had a 23' AS, and my dad had a 31' AS,
I pulled mine with a '71 Grand Prix, and he pulled his with a Suburban. We both kept a record of mileage on our respective TVs.
I was going to take my wife's sister and some kids with us on a vacation to Yellowstone and the Tetons, so my dad suggested that I take his Suburban and he and Mom would take my GP on their vacation.
When we got back we compared gas mileage. Both TVs got their normal mileage even tho they were towing a different trailer.
I think it's more about the wind resistance. Our two ASs had the same frontal area, even tho the weight was vastly different.
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08-13-2015, 10:02 PM
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#873
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,868
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Quote:
Originally Posted by terryV
I don't think the length or the weight of the trailer makes much difference.
Many years ago, in the early '70s I had a 23' AS, and my dad had a 31' AS,
I pulled mine with a '71 Grand Prix, and he pulled his with a Suburban. We both kept a record of mileage on our respective TVs.
I was going to take my wife's sister and some kids with us on a vacation to Yellowstone and the Tetons, so my dad suggested that I take his Suburban and he and Mom would take my GP on their vacation.
When we got back we compared gas mileage. Both TVs got their normal mileage even tho they were towing a different trailer.
I think it's more about the wind resistance. Our two ASs had the same frontal area, even tho the weight was vastly different.
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Bingo,
Weight matters some, more so in stop and go, but air is the true efficiency stealer in highway towing.
A heavy unit will use more gas going up a hill, but will recover most of this energy on the inevitable descent. (What is not lost to brakes or engine pumping losses).
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08-16-2015, 08:42 PM
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#874
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Rivet Master
2019 25' International
Traverse City
, Michigan
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 594
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slowmover
It's the ones under 25' as I wrote above.
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Still waiting to hear about the 20+ MPG vehicle with which all of us under 25' folks should be unselfishly towing...😉
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08-16-2015, 11:31 PM
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#875
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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Still unable to understand that post, eh?
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08-20-2015, 07:40 PM
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#876
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Remember, Safety Third
1973 27' Overlander
Catfish Corners
, Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 5,720
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Questions to ponder
How do the Chinese Take-out folks stay in business? For six bucks, I get enough food for three meals.
Why does a tube of Vulkem have an expiration date? Once outta the tube, it has a 50 year life span. Something magical I suppose.
Jes Thinkin' And it's starting to hurt.
Jim
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08-21-2015, 07:36 AM
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#877
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Rivet Master
2019 25' International
Traverse City
, Michigan
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 594
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Quote:
Originally Posted by slowmover
Still unable to understand that post, eh?
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Yep! Been waiting with my checkbook open to head down to dealer to buy x vehicle. Solve for x
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08-21-2015, 11:54 AM
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#878
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4 Rivet Member
1980 24' Caravelle
corpus christi
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 274
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I'm still trying to figure out how weight doesn't matter that much.
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08-21-2015, 12:18 PM
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#879
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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If your tires don't pop and your axles don't break...
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2013 Classic 30 Limited
2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
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08-21-2015, 12:23 PM
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#880
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
I'm In
, Kentucky
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,251
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thehandyman
I'm still trying to figure out how weight doesn't matter that much.
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Simple; on a twin axle trailer you put larger wheels on the rear axle than on the front axle. That way you're pretty much always going downhill so any extra weight just pushes you faster.
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Rich & Yvonne
2006 Safari SE -Dora-
2004 4Runner SE 4.7L V8
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