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Old 01-02-2015, 08:45 AM   #29
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I think 20% for taking an order and bringing the food to the table is too much. 10% should be enough for that job, after all they wait on several tables at a time.

I usually tip 15%, but what did that waitress say as we left?
BUT did you know that waiters and waitresses DO NOT GET PAID MINIMUM WAGE? They are "exempt" because they get TIPS. Here in Virginia they are paid $2.19 per hour.... and what's really an obscene problem is that every waiter or waitress has to do "side work" which means making "setups" or packaging napkins and silverware, refilling salt & pepper shakers and sugar/condiment trays, general cleaning - especially wiping greasy kid fingerprints off of glass windows and doors, etc. Most servers get stuck with about 2 hours per shift doing side work - for which they don't get paid regular minimum wage and can't make tips.

If the food is bad, most people don't tip... yet the server doesn't prepare the food.

In virtually every restaurant wait staff are expected to share their tips with the cooks and the host/hostess.

10% would be enough IF they DID get paid real minimum wage.

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Old 01-02-2015, 08:53 AM   #30
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Paula, I say tip what you want, and I'll tip what I want.

Figure this, a typical check at a restaurant these days is about $60, minimum, for a party of four, and I think that's a little on the light side. But anyway, figure $9 tip (15%), and a waitress will wait at least four tables at a time, so that's become $36, and how long does it typically take to eat? I think one hour is average. So that becomes $36 an hour.

There are LOTS of people in this country that don't make anywhere near that, and many of them have much greater skills than a waitress. I know I worked many a year at a hell of a lot less than that, but it was years ago, and times have changed, but my social security check hasn't changed much.

Just my thoughts, and YMMV.
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Old 01-02-2015, 09:02 AM   #31
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I avoid the "to insure proper service" debate, by not eating out

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Old 01-02-2015, 09:07 AM   #32
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I avoid the "to insure proper service" debate, by not eating out

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Understand, and I would do the same if I had more than 49% of the vote here.
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Don't get me started, or I'll be looking at *another* infraction...

On that note, let's get back to the music discussion.

Check out this newz blurb about Mr. Nice Guy

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Alice Cooper, the shock-rock megastar who makes Marilyn Manson look like a choir boy, stopped his hard-partying ways and returned to his Bible Christian roots in the late 1980s and today, still hugely popular and touring, says he isn’t shy about discussing his faith, says his early songs always warned against choosing evil, and contends that the world we live in “doesn’t belong to us, it belongs to Satan.
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Back in my drinking days, I tipped like a mad man... A drunk mad man. Threw quite a few tips that were higher than the meal cost. Amazing how much money I saved by backing off the booze.

I tip heavy for good service, light for bad. I don't figure the quality of the food in the tip, as long as the server is trying to help me out. Every now and again, not often, I get a server that gives me a "Too bad for you" attitude when I have a complaint about the food (which is pretty darned rare, no pun intended) and the attitude is what decides the tip.

I totally quit drinking for a long time (I had issues in my younger years) and went out to dinner with friends, who ordered beer with their food... Waitress dumped a beer right in my lap. She was pretty new at it, and tried her best to serve us well. She got a healthy tip at the end of the meal. It's more about the effort...

Side story, my sister in law, standard Caucasian female, got a side job as a waitress in a Chinese restaurant. You should see the looks white girl got... People down here couldn't grasp the concept, as if all waitresses in a Chinese restaurant have to be Asian or something. She did make a killing on tips though...

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Don't get me started, or I'll be looking at *another* infraction...

On that note, let's get back to the music discussion.

Check out this newz blurb about Mr. Nice Guy

Had Alice Cooper's Billion Dollar Babies on 8-track also...

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I have always been a Blues fan. Too bad it's not more popular.
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Some of the bluesier rock I get into, like the early ZZ Top, and some of the more creative blues musicians are interesting to me, but it seems like a lot of them are just phoning it in. Now, the early guys, love that stuff. Anytime you're the one inventing the genre... I've got a buddy here at work that's into Jazz heavy. I'm just not getting most of that. Most of it's way too random for my taste.

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A rather late up and coming guy on the Blues scene that I really like is Joe Bonamasa. Might have even misspelled his name.
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A rather late up and coming guy on the Blues scene that I really like is Joe Bonamasa. Might have even misspelled his name.
Joe is top notch for sure!!!

But B.G. and Quinn Sullivan ain't bad either.




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HO LEE SMOKES! Man, that kid!
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Man, Quinn sure got better those two videos.

Here's a recent one of Joe B.

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