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Old 02-03-2010, 12:12 PM   #15
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I keep something stashed all around the rig. In the cab, back of truck, under hood, inside/outside trailer
In Minnesota, and some other jurisdictions, there is a "negligent storage" statute on the books making it a felony to store a loaded in a location accessible to minors.
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Old 02-03-2010, 12:28 PM   #16
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:20 PM   #17
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My wife & I both have CCW's and we both carry when traveling.....mindful of Canadian and some state restrictions.....Tim
I have a question? Is the CCW status good only for the state you are in?
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:33 PM   #19
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Alternative deterrent if you don't like or have a gun

Alternative Deterrent: Almost everyone has a vehicle with a remote door lock that has a panic button that when pushed will honk the horn and flash the lights......

Whether at home or camping keep this remote control by your bed at night and if you feel or hear a threat simply press the panic button on your remote. The horn will honk and the lights will flash. You might even tell people near you at camp or your neighbors at home of your plan so they know it's not just an accident when and if your alarm does go off.

It's like having a FREE security system....
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Alternative Deterrent: Almost everyone has a vehicle with a remote door lock that has a panic button that when pushed will honk the horn adn flash the lights......

Whether at home or camping keep this remote control by your bed at night and if you feel or hear a threat simply press the panic button on your remote.

It's like having a FREE security system....
Really? I don't, and I bet a lot of other people don't either.


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I have a question? Is the CCW status good only for the state you are in?
It's a patchwork due to the politics and the variations in what it takes to get a permit.

The Utah and Florida permits are widely recognized, and many people who are not residents of those states obtain them for that reason. There are instructors nationwide who offer training programs that comply with the requirements of these states, and the application can be made by mail.

But those permits are not universal. Illinois doesn't issue permits and doesn't recognize permits from anywhere else, for example. States where local law enforcement issues or denies permits based on their personal discretion (notably California but there are others) generally don't recognize out of state permits.

Florida doesn't recognize Utah's permits (go figure), and a Florida permit is only valid in South Carolina if Florida is your state of residence. New Hampshire will issue a permit on request if you have a valid permit from another state, but requires a $100 fee, an application, and 30 days lead time to do so; Maine is similar.

On the other hand there are a number of states that don't require a permit to carry in a car, and two that don't require a permit at all.
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Old 02-03-2010, 02:52 PM   #22
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CCW's in most states are honored by other states. But, everybody doesn't recognize everybody.

If you're going to pack, you have to be a "gun boy" or "gun girl". This means that you are held to a higher standard than the average person. You better know what you're doing. No fluff, no bluff. It's serious business.

Many states won't recognize the CCW of another state, but it's perfectly legal to have your "hog leg" lying on the dash in plain sight when the cop walks up. NC used to be that way, for example.

A friend of mine was accosted at a VA rest stop. He did not have a weapon. It was a huge man that wanted to molest him, in the most carnal sense of the word.. Pretty twisted, actually. At any rate, he kicked the guy where it counts, ran to his car, and got away. If the big guy had had a knife, my friend might be gone. You have to judge for yourself...

Truly, the cops are good people and well intentioned. But, sadly, they are basically the mop up crew. They will not be there when you need them. So you either do something to protect yourself, or you avoid places where the bad guys might be.

It is a sad reflection upon our society that such vermin exist. I mean, really; you stop at a rest site to have lunch with your family and you're accosted by some weirdo. That is just wrong.
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My mother's aunt asked the same question after she was widowed. At the time she was living on a farm near a 4 lane hiway.

A police officer friend advised her that an intruder would most likely take a gun off her and use it on her. He told her to get a big dog.

So we went to the pound and got her a big German Shephard. A very friendly dog until a stranger came around.

The more she held him back on the leash the more he pulled, growled and barked. One day a stranger asked permission to get some water from her outside tap for his radiator. She held the dog as best she could, after a minute she said "you better hurry, the dog is trembling" the stranger said "lady what do you think I'm doing" LOL.

I will also say most women are handy with a butcher knife or carving knife. If you have a knife in your hand and obviously know how to use it, and a snarly dog in the other hand, I think most men will back off.
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The firearm debate will continue, with legitmate and valid arguments on all sides. However, I do believe that it is prudent to have something, and to me, it means "bear pepper spray".

At least if you make a mistake, someone does not die, but you still have some protection.
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Wow....thanks for all the opinions. My husband and I are "gun people" having carried in jobs and military, and continue to shoot regularly. I guess it's what you're comfortable with. I do have two large dogs, 95lbs and 75lbs...both can be a threat, but in all actuality, they would lick you to death, then sit in your lap...they are lab/border collie mix, are only reallllly threatening if you happen to be a squirrel or cat.
Thanks everyone...food for thought.
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I have been a law enforcement officer for more than 30 years, local, federal, and state service. I now live, in the twilight of my public service career, in one of the nicest little communities in the United States, very rural, very friendly people. At my last staff meeting it was pointed out that we have had 9 shootings in 30 days, some sort of sad record for those of us trying to keep our citizens safe and secure. In any event, this thread has emphasized the importance of understanding the additional responsibilities that are attached to the issue of use of deadly force and the requirement for proficiency should anyone decide "to carry". Not a decision to be made without very serious thought.
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jdthor do you have any other advice for those of us who are not law enforcement professionals or gun nuts? Is there any alternative to strapping on a hog leg and a bulletproof vest 24/7?
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