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Old 11-19-2016, 08:29 AM   #29
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A recent thread on WOODALLS with extensive pics of Oliver factory tour


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Old 11-19-2016, 09:53 AM   #30
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Oliver vs AS- what are you "drinking"?

I appreciate all the information on the Oliver vs Airstream on this thread. We also went from a 25' AS to a Casita for couple years, then back to 25'AS' (s) to gain more flexibility when bringing along the grandkids or another couple to camp with us. We looked at the Oliver closely this past summer after seeing a couple times in Glacier Park in our camp ground. First glance and review were very impressive; they offer several nice features when ordering from factory and I do like the looks/maintenance of the fiberglass shell inside and out. The AS for us, offers more "space" inside and flexibility for including family on our camping trips. The extra width and larger windows of the AS is very especially nice. But, for just 2 people and perhaps a small dog, the Oliver is certainly a nice option. (Wonder if you loose your rivet status if you go to an Oliver?)
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Old 11-19-2016, 10:12 AM   #31
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When permanent beds in an RV only come in the twin variety, they do not count.


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Old 11-19-2016, 10:31 AM   #32
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While our 2014 Classic has about a 8' 1" inside width, the 2015 23D International is about 7' 7" wide. The 2017 23' Oliver is 6' 6" wide inside. The narrower 23D we can hardly pass one another getting past the oven area.

The Oliver would too snug for us to move around inside unless the other was seated or lying down.

In my mind, if the Legacy II 23' Oliver had been the width of the 23D inside, we would be having an Oliver as our second trailer to get around all the other issues we have had with the first two Airstreams.

Many of the options for the Oliver I have already retrofitted to both the 31' Classic and the 23D. So we wcan live with what we have.
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Old 11-19-2016, 05:09 PM   #33
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Despite the difficulties our camping buddies were having with their Oliver, I actually liked it. The interior is a little stark compared to our FC20 but very clean. When we visited in their trailer we all stood while chatting but when they came over to the AS we all sat down! 23 feet and a wet bath just wouldn't work for me, but when the FC23 comes in at 70k+ before bells and whistles and the fully loaded Oliver 23 is 55k, I can see where it has a market.
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Old 11-19-2016, 07:22 PM   #34
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compare the Oliver and the Escape (out of Canada) The outsides look alike, but the big difference is inside. Wood vs fiberglass, windows, corner bed, dinette but size ???
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Old 11-19-2016, 08:47 PM   #35
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Hmmmmm...interesting; we like the blended propane tank nacelle.
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Old 11-19-2016, 08:56 PM   #36
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We considered a 23FB for a long time. We liked the extra width. The narrowness of the Oliver isn't an issue, we're not big people.

The Escape is a nice trailer. The Oliver is double hull construction so all the interior features (Cabinets, seats, beds, floor, etc) are molded into the inner shells. Nothing is attached, no rivets. That also allows all the utilities to reside between the hulls, which is also heated. 4 season camping. The double hull construction makes it more expensive than the other fiberglass trailers and also adds weight. Ours weighed 5100 lbs when it rolled out of the factory. That included the two full 30lb propane tanks and the four batteries/solar. Add some water and your "stuff" and it's not a lightweight!

We've always had nice compliments from Airstream owners. Of course we reciprocate because we do like Airstreams.
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Old 11-20-2016, 07:04 AM   #37
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A recent thread on WOODALLS with extensive pics of Oliver factory tour
Took these photos earlier this year at the Oliver plant:















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Old 11-20-2016, 07:25 AM   #38
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Our evolution was Casita 17' to Oliver 23 foot, to Airstream 28'. The Ollie was a beautiful unit...hull 64, And we loved it. The small size became an issue when we got stuck inside during a seven day rainy period last Summer so we started looking for a larger trailer and bought our 2007 International 28. The extra length and width make a huge difference. Having a full dry shower, separate head, full fridge, and all the storage is huge. One thing I don't miss is all the stooping and kneeling I had with the Ollie. Water connections are recessed under the trailer, and the sewer connection is inside a bumper that is hard to access. The AS has everything at a height and location that is easy to get to. That plus getting into the fridge required us to almost stand on our head because it sits on the floor. Age and Arthritis do make a difference.

Having said all that if Oliver would build a fiberglass trailer the size of an Airstream I would give some serious thought to buying one just because of the maintenance. Fiberglass requires much less care than does a riveted aluminum trailer.
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Having said all that if Oliver would build a fiberglass trailer the size of an Airstream I would give some serious thought to buying one just because of the maintenance.
Been thinking the same thing after reading many comments in this thread.

The folks here have probably done this, but I was very impressed with the set up you had on your Ollie to run the 13.5K AC off of battery power!!! Nice work!
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Old 11-20-2016, 07:57 AM   #40
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New twist on the subject: use a standard Airstream but use an OUTER shell of Molded material (fiberglass, rotomold plastic or similar material).
With the purchase of (company ?) and their molding plant maybe that is what is next.
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Excellent factory photos and videos here,

http://forums.woodalls.com/index.cfm...g/1/page/1.cfm
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New twist on the subject: use a standard Airstream but use an OUTER shell of Molded material (fiberglass, rotomold plastic or similar material).
With the purchase of (company ?) and their molding plant maybe that is what is next.
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Isn't the 'Nest' purchase a step in that direction?
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