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Old 09-30-2007, 10:29 PM   #15
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When ever we have these situations, either on a state basis or a national basis (Remember not long ago our national congress nearly shut down the country because of not creating a budget) don't you ever wonder why this can happen. I'm just an ordinary fellow. I have a check book, credit cards, some money in the bank and yes things get tight. I can't afford a lot of the things I think I need or want. My wife and I talk things over, sometimes she wants things that I don't and vice a versa. Were married, we respect each other and try to understand our individual needs so we come to a common consensus. We don't go to bed mad. we don't cheat our children or freinds by being vindictive with finances. But that is what happens in our government. It shouldn't matter whether you are a Democrat or Republican. What matters is the public good and the good graces of your constituents which the government of Michigan is ignoring right now in order to do some political infighting. We will get over it. Granholm has no more influence on this situation than any other politician. If you are Michigan resident look at the candidates on the next ballot very carefully. Take a close look at what they really accomplished versus campaign promises and vote accordingly. Myself, if I want to use my Airstream during this "crisis" it is very easy to drive right out of the state to Ohio, Indiana, Illinois or points south.
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Old 09-30-2007, 10:40 PM   #16
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Wheel Interested,

I feel your pain.

Our previous Gov closed state parks, etc. to get a 10% increase in the state sales tax. It worked and now they have surpluses that Nashville is blowing out their you know what.

Your situation is much worse than ours. Job losses in private industry, everything is organized, unionized, professionalized, governmentized, groupized. You support me and I will support you. The poor guy who is not in a group is getting killed. When all the groups get done getting theirs, there is nothing left to run the state.

My kids are in Ohio, not much different.

The same groups down here are trying to get the state income tax so they can live off the government.

The company I retired from sells 20Billion in goods & services and at the end of the year there is no money left(no net profit) but, the demands made on it
are never ending.
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Old 09-30-2007, 10:45 PM   #17
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Ok, you Michigan Streamers hook up your rigs and ring the Capital in Lansing! Then boondock on the lawns! I can say this 'cause I am a Wolverine native.......but I kinda like it here in California.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:45 AM   #18
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Well, at the last minute, just before sunrise, they worked out a deal--for 30 days. Everybody goes back to work, for now. We'll see if there will be a rude Halloween surprise.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:50 AM   #19
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Well, at the last minute, just before sunrise, they worked out a deal--for 30 days. Everybody goes back to work, for now. We'll see if there will be a rude Halloween surprise.
I'm SHOCKED-SHOCKED. That almost sounds political.
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Old 10-01-2007, 12:38 PM   #20
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Well, at the last minute, just before sunrise, they worked out a deal--for 30 days. Everybody goes back to work, for now. We'll see if there will be a rude Halloween surprise.
yeah... they increased taxes here

if michigan was a patient in the ICU, the plug on the respirator was just pulled....
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Old 10-01-2007, 09:37 PM   #21
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woe is michigan

well let me see, now that we are talking politics. raising taxes on a population that has an unemployment rate of 7.5% seems rather stoopid.

and anyway what will the do nothing politicians do in another 30 days but wring their hands, get red faced and huff and puff about the other party.

here is a novel idea, cut the welfare. too mean you say? then legalize marijuana, tax it, regulate it and control it. use the money to help balance the budget and then use the rest for drug education and treatment. yes, i know far fetched but the state could probably put 1 billion dollars per year into their coffers.

now i do not use drugs and don't even drink booze but i do know failed policies and michigan has many.

recall jenny, california recalled grey!

good luck from a former michigander!

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Old 10-02-2007, 08:05 AM   #22
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well let me see, now that we are talking politics. raising taxes on a population that has an unemployment rate of 7.5% seems rather stoopid.

and anyway what will the do nothing politicians do in another 30 days but wring their hands, get red faced and huff and puff about the other party.

here is a novel idea, cut the welfare. too mean you say? then legalize marijuana, tax it, regulate it and control it. use the money to help balance the budget and then use the rest for drug education and treatment. yes, i know far fetched but the state could probably put 1 billion dollars per year into their coffers.

now i do not use drugs and don't even drink booze but i do know failed policies and michigan has many.

recall jenny, california recalled grey!

good luck from a former michigander!

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last poll was something like 93% were dissatisfied with the tax hike solution to our MI budget crisis...

i can't believe there isn't more steam behind the recall effort...

i think the difference is, californians know how to get things done
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last poll was something like 93% were dissatisfied with the tax hike solution to our MI budget crisis...

i can't believe there isn't more steam behind the recall effort...

i think the difference is, californians know how to get things done
well i will tell you this, we in the once great golden state have our own problems and you can bet on that. the last good thing coming out of the state capitol was recalling our bozo (sorry bozo) govenor grey davis.

not sure if the mods will canx this but i will tell you this, we are over run with illegals from who knows where and while we are on airstreaming it will cost one $30.00 to stay in a state park.

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