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Old 01-16-2005, 08:51 AM   #1
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Unhappy maybe kevlar would help

I am posting this picture of the condition in which we received our WBCCI membership book in the hope that anyone who mails items might consider investing in KEVLAR protection for their deliverables. Even though our Airstream Life come a few days earlier well protected by its plastic casing, the membership book looks like it was dragged all the way from Ohio to Virginia. Maybe there is a need to have the contents show so that the item can be deemed valuable enough to ride inside the mail trucks.
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Old 01-16-2005, 08:55 AM   #2
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Personally, I like the envelopes that are made from Tyvek or similar material. Not easy to get into without a pair of scissors but they really protect the contents. The USPS priority mail pouches are made from Tyvek. I use them whenever I can.
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Old 01-16-2005, 09:30 AM   #3
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Heavy, sharp-cornered objects like the membership directory do tend to poke out through paper envelopes when subjected to automated mailing equipment.

TYVEK is a great stuff for durability and waterproofness, but unfortunately it costs several times more than paper. It's prohibitively expensive for mass mailings like the directory.

The envelopes provided free by the Post Office for Priority Mail are very durable, too, but the directory is sent Bulk Rate (to get the lowest possible price) and so those envelopes can't be used.

Polybagging is relatively cheap and a good option. WBCCI could also look into recycled cardboard envelopes (more expensive but "greener").
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Old 01-16-2005, 10:07 AM   #4
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I am posting this picture of the condition in which we received our WBCCI membership book in the hope......
Well, at least you are IN the book!

We've been omitted, and we are members in good standing of both the WBCCI AND the VAC. We must be, or why woudl we have received the membership book? (my envelope was in good shape, BTW)

I wrote them a letter telling them they omitted us, but big deal.. they'll probably send out a sheet of paper with "missing" people on it to insert in our books.

When the book arrived, I felt like Steve Martin in "The Jerk" when he found his name in the phone book, thinking he was famous.

I was looking forward to finally being listed as an official "old fart."

(WBCCI members do NOT need to yell at me for saying that. Have a bit of humor, OK?)

But I guess I'm still not one.
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Old 01-16-2005, 10:12 AM   #5
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We were left ut as well. The closing date for the books was Nov 1 or something and there was a mix up on my end about the dues. I need to check with the VAC about the same as I'm getting the newsletter but don't know if I'm paid up or not.
It's always cool to get the directory.
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Old 01-16-2005, 10:37 AM   #6
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VAC Membership Dues Information

Greetings Over59!

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We were left ut as well. The closing date for the books was Nov 1 or something and there was a mix up on my end about the dues. I need to check with the VAC about the same as I'm getting the newsletter but don't know if I'm paid up or not.
It's always cool to get the directory.
You can verify when your VAC membership expires by checking the mailing label on your Vintage Advantage. On the second line (below mail routing information), you will find: Dues Paid to: 20XX .

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Old 01-16-2005, 10:43 AM   #7
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TYVEK is a great stuff for durability and waterproofness, but unfortunately it costs several times more than paper. It's prohibitively expensive for mass mailings like the directory.
Maybe WBCCI could cut back on some of the tens of thousands it's spending on sending "officers" cross country on the membership's dime and they could then put that money to better mailings matierials.

After all, most folks here talk about WBCCI officers being volunteers and donating lots of their time.....

Don't know what the heck I'm talking about? Look here:
http://www.airstream.com/airstreamer...pic.php?t=1078
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Old 01-16-2005, 11:07 AM   #8
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We were left ut as well. The closing date for the books was Nov 1 or something and there was a mix up on my end about the dues. I need to check with the VAC about the same as I'm getting the newsletter but don't know if I'm paid up or not.
It's always cool to get the directory.
HEY!@! At least YOU are getting the NEWSLETTER!!!

That's another thing that we don't often get, and I've written to them about it before. One time I got a back issue that had been sent to someone else and returned, or I woudln't have gotten THAT one.

Our membership has NOT lapsed, and was paid for LONG before November.
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You know, when I was a member, our info also came as if it had been through the second world war. The documents inside were pretty badly beat too. Though that was not the reason I threw my numbers away at the end of the 1st and only year, it was one very small part of the overall decision process to walk.

Glad to hear you're all paid up though Kid....
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Old 01-16-2005, 11:38 AM   #10
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RE: 2004 Vintage Advantage Issues

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HEY!@! At least YOU are getting the NEWSLETTER!!!

That's another thing that we don't often get, and I've written to them about it before. One time I got a back issue that had been sent to someone else and returned, or I woudln't have gotten THAT one.

Our membership has NOT lapsed, and was paid for LONG before November.
The current issue of the Vintage Advantage that has been out for about three or four weeks is only the second for the 2004 membership year. I know that there was discussion during the membership meeting at the WBCCI International Rally in Lansing that there would likely be no more than three issues of the publication for 2004 due to the availability of the volunteer who does most of the pre-press preparation of the publication. The current issue bears the information - - Issue #2, 04, Volume 11 - - 2004.

I haven't received my WBCCI directory yet - - probably didn't get my new address as some club information goes to my new address while some is still going to my old address.

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They could post the info on the web site and let you download saving mailing costs. I really would love to see it sent out in a cd format or in a file that you could download. That would save a lot of mailing costs and allow updates.
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Old 01-16-2005, 12:04 PM   #12
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Old 01-16-2005, 12:10 PM   #13
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They could post the info on the web site and let you download saving mailing costs. I really would love to see it sent out in a cd format or in a file that you could download. That would save a lot of mailing costs and allow updates.
GREAT idea, I wonder why they don't offer that option?

Do you suppose they don't have a large enough computer literate sector of clients? (yet?)

Maybe they will do more in the future.
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GREAT idea, I wonder why they don't offer that option?

Do you suppose they don't have a large enough computer literate sector of clients? (yet?)

Maybe they will do more in the future.
I have noticed that vintage owners tend to be a little younger than the general WBCCI membership. Probably something to do with all the physical labor needed to restore and operate an older unit.
Being younger, we seem to be more computer-literate also, hopefully this will mean an increase of online available items for Airstreamers on the go.
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