Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 10-26-2004, 06:35 PM   #1
Rivet Master
 
Kistler's Avatar
 
2002 25' Classic
Oro Valley , Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 835
Linux and Stop-Sign questions

The guru from Night Vision left and now supposedly this computer is virus free Night Vision is a local company that does business/home computer problems.

The tech left me with a disk for Linux???? said we might like it as a system. Do any of you have this? what you think about it?

Sold me Stop-Sign ....seems to be working.... I hope.... Any of you have experience with this product?
__________________

__________________
Kistler & Brenda

2002 Classic 25'
2003 Expedition EB 5.4L, AWD, AdvanceTrac Class IV hitch pkg. Reese dual cam/Prodigy
Kistler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2004, 08:35 PM   #2
Rivet Master
 
silverback's Avatar
 
2006 28' Safari SE
Currently Looking...
Sierra Vista , United States
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 702
Thumbs up Try it if you have some time and a spare PC

Hi Kistler, I use linux extensively. Depending on the distribution (different vendors bundle additional programs with the core OS), you can end up with nearly the same functionality as Windows without the worms and viruses. Especially with the latest versions. The latest versions are also much simpler to install. Do you know the vendor and version number? Anyway, while I'm a Linux promoter I wouldn't recommend you try it on your main home PC (unless you're willing to use disk partitioning software to split your hard drive and configure a dual boot machine). I would recommend taking a class or getting a how-to book (available on-line), and then trying it on a machine you don't mind blowing away if you make a mistake. Of course you could backup or image your current hard drive and try it then. I think Linux is worth the effort (it's also mostly free).
Enjoy,
Ken
__________________

__________________
4CU Charter Member
silverback is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2004, 08:47 PM   #3
Rivet Master
 
Kistler's Avatar
 
2002 25' Classic
Oro Valley , Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 835
Thank you for replying, Ken. I understood about 1/4 of what you wrote but will re-read a few times.

This computer is basically used exclusively for the internet....we order things from on-line suppliers, like Toolsource, Toscano, Amazon, once-in-a-while ebay, and we check our meager $ with banker-on-line.

The guru said he would help me with the dialer for AOL (tells you how sharp, I am--I have AOL) and about how I could choose something comparable to "Word", "Works", and hopefully my multi-function HP printer will work.

I can't believe that I/we were assaulted with viruses/viri ? 18 of them and that is after Best Buy did a "D and C" on the thing.
__________________
Kistler & Brenda

2002 Classic 25'
2003 Expedition EB 5.4L, AWD, AdvanceTrac Class IV hitch pkg. Reese dual cam/Prodigy
Kistler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2004, 09:08 PM   #4
Rivet Master
 
RivetED's Avatar
 
2017 26' Flying Cloud
North Central , USA
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 661
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kistler
I can't believe that I/we were assaulted with viruses/viri ? 18 of them and that is after Best Buy did a "D and C" on the thing.
Sometimes they need to do a full 'diskectomy' if a 'D & C' isn't enough!!

I have some computer skills, but I'm tired of all the 'over-head' that using Windows on the net has become. I'm seriously thinking of going to an Apple platform for my on-line work. Too much money in Windows S/W to give up compleatly!
__________________
RivetED is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2004, 09:08 PM   #5
Rivet Master
 
silverback's Avatar
 
2006 28' Safari SE
Currently Looking...
Sierra Vista , United States
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 702
Kistler, If your local guru will help you with the install and configuration I'd go for it. He's correct about the applications. There are programs on Linux that are very similar to Word, Excel and PowerPoint (and can actually exchange and read/write files from the MS programs). Also, in my opinion for web browsing and e-mail, the programs that come with Linux are superior to the Windows flavor. I use the Mozilla browser and Evolution e-mail program (both available for Windows too). I always feel more secure doing on-line banking with my Linux machine.
Ken
__________________
4CU Charter Member
silverback is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2004, 09:21 PM   #6
Rivet Master
 
Royce's Avatar
 
1977 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Colorado Springs , Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 716
Images: 9
Kistler,

Ken has offered some great advice. I can only add that eventhough I have worked as a Windows support tech I use Linux at home and greatly prefer it. I think it is well worth the learning curve you will encounter

Atb,
Royce
__________________
Royce (K0RKK) 146.460 simplex
Web page http://spearfishcreek.net/
AIR# 3913
'77' Minuet 6 Metre, behind a 2005 stock Jeep Rubicon with Equa-L-Zer hitch.
Royce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2004, 09:22 PM   #7
Rivet Master
 
Kistler's Avatar
 
2002 25' Classic
Oro Valley , Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 835
OK, then the decision is made! Thank you fellows.

Kistler
__________________
Kistler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2004, 09:34 PM   #8
3 Rivet Member
 
71_safari's Avatar
 
Currently Looking...
West Linn , Oregon
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 195
Images: 12
hmmm...

I agree about the benefits of Linux, but I tend to think that if a person doesn't understand basic file maintenance and software loading they will eventually bump into compatibility issues or the need for tweaking, and have to continue to engage outside support. I love Linux but it didn't run several programs I have to use, and wasn't compatible with an older Sony laptop (the one I use in my Airstream) and I eventually tired of running dual operating systems.

My solution when I help friends in the same boat, is to clean everything off and reload the basic Microsoft software with just what they need and no more, a simple internet browser and email program, along with an ISP like Earthlink or similar. And of course a robust anti-virus and firewall. And I tell them never to reply to pop-ups, etc, just close them. Stay away from popular media and gaming sites unless you know what they are. And keep everything updated and backed up, and regularly run the spy-checker, antivirus, etc.

Absolutely NO AOL! That program is the worst. It takes an already sucky and overloaded Microsoft operating system and loads further layers onto it so your machine runs like one that is three years old. Then with all the background programs running all the time, and pop-ups and animated screens, you don't know what is going on and your system becomes prone to spyware and viruses. Ugh - I hate AOL. And what a pain to get rid of. Only way is to clean it all off and start all over.

What a hassle this is becoming.

john
__________________
Currently living in SE Asia
1971 Safari 23 (sold)
71_safari is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2004, 09:40 PM   #9
Rivet Master
 
Kistler's Avatar
 
2002 25' Classic
Oro Valley , Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 835
But (in defense of having AOL), I am technologically challenged. I don't know if I am capable of not having a provider that doesn't "spoon feed" me, if you know what I mean.

What is the next easiest provider?

Kistler
__________________
Kistler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2004, 09:45 PM   #10
3 Rivet Member
 
71_safari's Avatar
 
Currently Looking...
West Linn , Oregon
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 195
Images: 12
Earthlink has an integrated browser and email that is like AOL but still has a LOT less overhead and can be configured without some of the extras. Plus everyone I know who has switched to Earthlink really likes their service. No, I do not work for them.... They were just one of the first ISP's to really go up against AOL and MSN and now have a robust national service and excellent tech support.
__________________
Currently living in SE Asia
1971 Safari 23 (sold)
71_safari is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2004, 09:53 PM   #11
Rivet Master
 
Kistler's Avatar
 
2002 25' Classic
Oro Valley , Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 835
Thank you for the info....understand that you don't work for them. I will check out Earthlink.

It would seem with AOL and Windows XP I might as well schedule The Guru (computer person--Night Vision) as regular as oil changes for the vehicles and the piano tuner for the piano.

Kistler
__________________
Kistler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2004, 10:01 PM   #12
3 Rivet Member
 
71_safari's Avatar
 
Currently Looking...
West Linn , Oregon
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 195
Images: 12
Yes, it is really a sad state of affairs. We are back to the old days again, where people need technical support for the computers. Or maybe we never really got away from that requirement, it just seemed like we might.

Good luck with it.
__________________
Currently living in SE Asia
1971 Safari 23 (sold)
71_safari is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2004, 10:10 PM   #13
Rivet Master
 
silverback's Avatar
 
2006 28' Safari SE
Currently Looking...
Sierra Vista , United States
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 702
One more for me. I agree with John (71_safari), that installing new programs on Linux can be frustrating. Some will work perfectly for one distribution and blowup all over the hard drive on another. Some like Mozilla are solid across distributions. Unlike Windows though, a failed install will rarely cause system wide failures (no registry to corrupt). I think the file maintenance issues that older versions could experience are rare in the newest versions, especially if the OS is installed properly.
ken
__________________
4CU Charter Member
silverback is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2004, 10:17 PM   #14
Rivet Master
 
Kistler's Avatar
 
2002 25' Classic
Oro Valley , Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 835
Does Earthlink come in a "trial disk"? AOL can be picked up at the Post Office, Home Depot, and Toys R Us (joke).

Kistler
__________________

__________________
Kistler is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
We'll start with the windows FranyPul Windows & Screens 2 09-18-2004 09:04 PM
Open your frameless windows wide? TomW Windows & Screens 17 08-23-2004 09:14 PM
Windows Inland RV Center, In Windows & Screens 1 04-20-2004 07:14 AM
Leaky Windows & Skin Replacement PizzaChop Leaks - Weatherstrips, Gaskets, Caulks & Sealants 9 03-09-2004 12:13 AM
a computer warning.. Theo Off Topic Forum 25 03-01-2004 12:18 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.