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Old 10-26-2004, 10:24 PM   #15
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Thumbs up Earthlink

I have been with Earthlink for over 5 years and love it. I originally got it because of the 800 number dial ups and have stayed because the service has been excellent. They have a Spam blocker on their email that is execellent. It normally stops 95% of the spam that is directed at me. As far as Linux...I dunno I know people that swear by it and people that swear at it. I pretty much stick to Windows because that is what I am familiar with and that is what my company has us use
I do use Ad aware SE and AVG anti virus I would also reccomend an additional spybot type program, to catch the ones that Adaware misses. Also especially if you are on high speed get a firewall.

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Old 10-26-2004, 10:28 PM   #16
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Does Earthlink come in a "trial disk"? AOL can be picked up at the Post Office, Home Depot, and Toys R Us (joke).

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Go to www.earthlink.net and you can down load or call them

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Old 10-27-2004, 06:58 AM   #17
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I am a tech support guy, and in my County ( I work for the schools) we don't allow Aol.
I do recoomend earthlink, and I personally use JOI (JOIInternet.com) which is cheap and has been reliable for two years.
I also use an Imac at home although have hundreds of Dells at work. The mac has never had a virus issue, never crashed, and runs almost anything a home user could want.
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Old 10-27-2004, 07:07 AM   #18
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Good a.m. , Alan SD... that explains why you are up early-- you've got to go to school. that is unless you are already there.

Someone, earlier, last evening suggested Earthlink is/was the probably next easiest to deal with--AOL being easiest.

I have gone to their site (Earthlink's) and inquired about a trial disk....you know that kind that AOL has available all over the place for their system.

Have a good day!

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Old 10-27-2004, 08:07 AM   #19
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I've used Linux in a classroom, but that's it.

How easy is it to install new hardware when running Linux? MS Plug n Play with XP is mighty sweet...
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Old 10-27-2004, 09:11 AM   #20
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I run XP/Mandrake Linux 9.0 dual boot at home. I use a PPoe internet connection with Alltel DSL. No problems, Linux just works! Open Office is a great alternative for Microsoft Office. I have an HP 2210 multifunction printer and it works fine with Mandrake 9.0.

Just installed a new 80 gig HD in my machine, may upgrade to Mandrake 10.1 or give Gentoo a try.
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Old 10-27-2004, 09:47 AM   #21
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From what I'm reading here:

(1) Kistler admits to being "technologically challenged"
(2) She had a severe problem with viruses on her Windows PC
(3) She wants an easy email provider

Based on that, I agree with AlanSD and RivetED on the recommendation to switch to a Mac. Any Mac would ready to go out of the box with hardly any setup at all. Also the advantage of not having virus worries, no pop-ups (the built-in Safari browser can be set to block them with one click), and no problem with compatibility with your old MS documents and files. For email, she can use Earthlink or the ".Mac" service.

If she sticks with MS products, especially virus magnets like Outlook and Internet Explorer, the problems will probably be back. At least, that's the experience I've had with other folks. You can give advice all day about not clicking pop-ups, deleting spam, not clicking attachments, avoiding certain websites, etc., but the challenges keep changing and I've found it's impossible to inoculate innocent users against the scourge out there.

Not to be too much of an evangelist, but I just switched to Mac two weeks ago after 23 years of PC use, and I was amazed at how easy it was, and how stable Mac OS X is. I will not be going back to a PC.

But Kistler, if you want to re-use the hardware you have, Linux might be your next best choice. If you do that, be sure to have a guru help you get set up, especially if you have a laptop. Linux is not so easy for the "technologically challenged."

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Another alternative, if you want to stay on the Windoze PC platform is to use altenative web browsers, such as Opera, Mozilla, Mozilla Fire Fox. There are also alternative email programs such as Mozilla Thunderbird, Pegasus, etc., that are not "virus magnets". Go to a site such as Download.com and you will find many more.
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even a "guru" like myself can get whacked by the inherant insecurity of MS platforms. I have an old (but perfectly serviceable) laptop in the kitchen that is only capable of running win95, but its fine as a web-surfer/browser. but it was recently hijacked by some unscrupulous script, without having clicked on a popup, or having said "yes" to anything. simply going to a website did it. and now its "toast", and needs a complete "disc-ectomy".

If I ever find out where these people live, I'm going to their house to "enhance" their personal private property without their consent, and see how much they like it.

Linux and Mac are great, if you live in a vacuum. if you need to run anything out of the most absolute ordinary category, though...yer screwed.
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Old 10-27-2004, 11:30 AM   #24
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Thank you again, everyone, for the advice/recommendations. I have a call into Night Vision--my "guru" --but he is out on a call.

Brenda and I did the tutorial on Linspire and believe that we had better switch.

I will have to keep AOL a while longer; adjusting to Lindos or Linspire or Linux....OS is going to be enough for me/us to adjust to.....am going to go with EarthLink eventually.

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Old 10-27-2004, 04:31 PM   #25
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Linux is a very solid OS. However, I'd compare it to the joke I heard a few years ago.

If airlines were like OSs.

Windows
You would just expect the engines to stop running mid-flight and have to restart them.

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Sit in your seat, shut the hell up and let us do all the piloting...period.

Linux
Bring your own seat, bolts, etc and install them yourself.

Though the joke is clearly dated (except for the windows part), Linux is becoming more end user friendly. I would agree, as a novice, you'd be better served placing it on a secondary non production (bread and butter) machine. Once savvy enough however, Linux, like UNIX is like a rock!
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Old 10-27-2004, 04:39 PM   #26
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Not to be too much of an evangelist, but I just switched to Mac two weeks ago after 23 years of PC use, and I was amazed at how easy it was, and how stable Mac OS X is. I will not be going back to a PC.

Good luck!
Our school district (that I am the I.S. guy for) has only myself and another guy that manages all 600 of our Mac OSX workstations, 2300 users and about 20 xServes running OS 10.3.5. That's right, only two people.

One the other hand the high school which at the time had only one building and about 600 more machines had at the time about 8 people in the main I.S. department.

They took a big hit last year because one person got one of the new viruses that wiped out all the workstations and servers. They were down for days. Problem was that they were at the time 100% up to date with virus and OS patches. The speed of the internet delivered to them the payload of their destruction because the folks had not gotten the patches out in time for them to have their machines update automatically.

Since then they have gone to the Cisco client software that has helped limit their exposure since we all know virus software is more reactive than proactive.

At any rate, my main point is that Macs are very easy to run and maintain...and the total cost of ownership which few will admit is that regardless of what study they quote a PC tends to have more overhead and hand holding issues than the Mac....but don't get me wrong, the MacOS too has it's share of quirks, it's just that those quirks ususally have a work around and more times than not, do not effect the overall performance of the OS in general.

I think Windows is great. It takes all the lightning strikes that are out there to protect the other OSs.
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I guess MacIntosh-- was "nice" to the schools. That is how Brenda and I started

The problem for us, when we retired, was that it seemed like there was not the software choices there are today...so we switched in 1992 to Windows and a PC (by the way, I still don't understand why a Mac is not a PC)

Now it seems we are paying (Night Vision -- the "guru" comes tomorrow to install it) to go back to sort of a MacIntosh type operating system....yikes.

I do not wish to pay $3-4,000 for a fancy Mac....this thing is almost new.

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Kistler,

You can get a fairly good Mac desktop for between $1500.00 and $2000 depending largely if you want wireless, bluetooth a gig of RAM and a 3 year warranty...also the $2k machine get you into the 17" Flat panel iMac that has the G5 chip.

Not that I advocate running out and spending that money on a new Mac, but the reality is that spec for spec, the old notions that Macs cost thousands more is not as true as it once was.... if you get a comp equipped PC, you'll find that Apple is now only a few hundred $$ apart...then you might be able to rationalize it by thinking that you're getting some great pieces of software for that extra few hundred $$. Like iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie. I'm not much of an iMovie freak, but iTunes and iPhoto are way up there.

I'm told some of the good PC software titles that do what iTunes, iPhoto and iMove come at an additional cost to the PC. I also understand that some of it comes with Windows, but folks tell me that it isn't all that good. Of course, I can't say for sure.....one thing I can say is that we don't have folks coming to the house to fix out Macs.
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