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Old 02-03-2012, 10:14 PM   #351
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more Crab Fest pics

got a few more to share.also wanted to say thanks for the sponsors that provided the prizes, A new sit on top fishing kayak, Promar for some traps, crab hawk traps, spirit paddles, and more that I cannot remember.one of the most FUN weekends I've ever had with my airstream.
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Old 02-05-2012, 05:29 PM   #352
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Hello,
Has anyone tried the kayaks by MOKAI? They have a 7 1/2 hp suburu jet drive .Very well built.Mokai Manufacturing Inc.
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:13 AM   #353
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powered stuff

interesting watercraft to say the least. starting off @ $3800 actually sounds like a fair price. I'ld have one hell of a time portaging that thing very far. made in new york state.here's my powered watercraft I built a few years ago.enough of the powered stuff, back to kayaking
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:01 AM   #354
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Hey nick and other Brits
got any info on this yak.?
MI designs, I got very little info on a google search, any info much appreciated, I think this is a 10 year old boat and they were used in the Avon Decent back then.
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:12 AM   #355
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DG, the MI Designs 415 is, in my best guess, designed for speed in moderate white water. My guess is it could be used for races down rivers up to Class 3. Would you like me to ask our UK kayak forum for any knowledge of the origins and history of the design?
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:42 AM   #356
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Thanks Nick,
whatever info you could get would be appreciated.
I've paddled a pyranha speedster on the river before and this MI has quite similar lines. kind of a wildwater slalom thing.
I got this boat for a lady friend of mine to do a 10K downriver run.(2 class 1 rapids} She normally does the ironwoman thing but will be doing the paddle part only of a tri this july.
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Old 02-09-2012, 03:52 PM   #357
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DG, in the view of my contacts, the MI 415 is a rather heavy basic flat water touring boat made by a company in the Midlands, England,in the late 1980's. The MI stands for the initials of the two guys involved, Martin Spencer and Ian Freestone. 415 represents the length in centimetres. Martin Spencer is now believed to be involved at Teksport sit on top, recreational, fishing and white water kayaks Any more detailed information could perhaps be obtained from that source.
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never woulda guessed it to be a flat water touring boat.just have to put the old stop watch on it.
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Old 02-12-2012, 07:17 AM   #359
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It looks to me like most everyone on this thread are ocean kayakers (no offense to you crazy white water folks, if I missed you). What I want to know is, is it reasonable to plan a trip down a river in a touring/ocean kayak that has maximum rapids of class 2? There seem to be lots of interesting river segments in the West hwere class 2 is the maximum listed.

What does class 2 look like, anyone got photos? This page has a few photos and almost looks like a class 3- is possible in an ocean kayak, but I think the perspective from a river kayak is a lot different.

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Post 158 on this thread shows me on a class 3. Post 159 shows some unknown paddler on the same wave train, Triple Drop Rapid, River Dart, S.W England.
A modern white water boat is much easier in those conditions. Nick.
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I had to break off for dinner. I wanted to say that grade 2 in a tourer/ocean kayak will be considerably more challenging than, for example, paddling grade 2 in a creek boat like mine. The main challenges will be avoiding capsize on eddy lines and during the landing after even small drops. The underwater shape of white water boats is broader and flatter, leading to greater stability in chaotic white water.
It can certainly be done in a tourer (and I have done so) but you need a higher level of skill.
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Thanks, Nick, I think a class 2 ought to be the limit for now. I'm not reluctant to tackle eddies (what's a capsize now and then?) and waves, but drops of almost any size are way out of bounds for a long boat.

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kayak through a rear baggage door?

I'm going to put a hatch in the back of my 20' Caravelle. It would be cool to be able to slide a boat through there under the rear bed and out into the trailer during travel. Would this work for boats 16' and under? What size of opening would be required for a typical kayak?
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