Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 09-24-2011, 11:34 AM   #309
Rivet Master
 
FreshAir's Avatar

 
1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville , California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,327
Images: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeppelinium View Post
Our apologies to the Forum for making it look like DOORGUNNER and I like yaks (all wood, all owner-built) more than Airstreams...

Attachment 140671

and my thanks to Tim for his hospitality and great instruction on the water!

Zep
I don't build (or even have) kayaks. But I appreciate great woodworking workmanship. I've seen Tim's, doorgunner, wood work and love it. Zepp, from your photos you also have your own unique creative style and I like it too.
Neil
__________________

__________________
Neil and Lynn Holman
FreshAir #12407

Avatar;
Kirk Creek, Big Sur, Ca. coast.

1966 Trade Wind

1971 Buick Centurion convertible
455 cid

1969 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight
455 cid
FreshAir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2011, 11:50 PM   #310
4 Rivet Member
 
Zigidachs's Avatar
 
2011 30' Classic
Ridgefield , Washington
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 297
Images: 1
We are seriously considering a pair of Kayaks. We have decided not to pursue a tandem because of weight and storage considerations. We have only canoe experience many years ago.

We do not plan sea kayaking or long trips, or even overnighters...we have this wonderful Airstream to sleep in....We will travel lakes ( e.g. some large ones....Jackson Lake near Yellowstone) and mostly rivers...like the Willamette in Oregon.

We are looking at the Current Designs "transition" Kayaks, namely the Vision 120 for nana, and the 140 for papa.

We are going to test drive these boats soon, but with all the experience on this site, I couldn't resist asking for comments and recommendations from this august group. Fire away folks, my "ears" are wide open and receptive!!! Thanks for your input......Zigi
__________________

__________________
Zigidachs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2011, 02:52 AM   #311
Rivet Master
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,313
Images: 4
Vision kayaks

We have a fleet of kayaks, including a Nordkapp HM, NDK Romany, NDK Explorer LV, Anas Acuta, NDK Romany LV, Tahe Greenland, Wilderness Systems North Star, self-build skin -on-frame, Dagger CFS, etc. (28 at the last count!). When the DW and I are paddling and exploring together, we now use a Current Designs Double Vision, a short, lightweight kevlar and glass tandem:

Double Vision

At about 60 pounds it weighs less than my Romany single, and is shorter than most of my singles. We've been paddling for 50 years, and from that experience I can thoroughly recommend the Double Vision for your puposes. A good friend, Mark Gluckman (co-author of "Sea Kayaking in Florida"), uses the Vision 140, and he is delighted with it. You will see some of our experiences here:

www.hiddencoast.blogspot.com

Nick.
__________________
Nick Crowhurst, Excella 25 1988, Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins Diesel. England in summer, USA in winter.
"The price of freedom is eternal maintenance."
nickcrowhurst is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2011, 07:44 AM   #312
1 Rivet Short
 
1989 25' Excella
By The Bay , Rhode Island
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,547
Images: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zigidachs View Post
We are seriously considering a pair of Kayaks. We have decided not to pursue a tandem because of weight and storage considerations. We have only canoe experience many years ago.

We do not plan sea kayaking or long trips, or even overnighters...we have this wonderful Airstream to sleep in....We will travel lakes ( e.g. some large ones....Jackson Lake near Yellowstone) and mostly rivers...like the Willamette in Oregon.

We are looking at the Current Designs "transition" Kayaks, namely the Vision 120 for nana, and the 140 for papa.

We are going to test drive these boats soon, but with all the experience on this site, I couldn't resist asking for comments and recommendations from this august group. Fire away folks, my "ears" are wide open and receptive!!! Thanks for your input......Zigi
I know the “Purists” will flame me for this; but I think the majority of Folks are well served by a quality roto-molded recreational kayak. We have a few Perceptions and an Old-Towne. They are comfortable, stable, and fairly indestructible and have served us well for many years.
I don’t have to grimace if a Friend wants to go for a paddle or feel bad when I run it up onto the beach.
12’ or 14’ sounds about right; long enough to track well, not so long that you couldn’t run a river.
Test driving is a great idea…check craigs, and also many rental shops (and campgrounds) sell off their inventory for pennies on the dollar at the end of the season…
I would love to have a beauty like dg’s…and probably will some day. But between Cub Scouts, Friends, and the abuse we give our boats…I would hate to do that to a work of art…

Bill

Last week…Wood River, RI with Cub Scouts (and Shadow)
__________________
*Life is Good-Camping all around the Continent*
*Good people drink good beer-Hunter S Thompson*
BillTex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2011, 10:48 AM   #313
Rivet Master
 
mutcth's Avatar

 
2007 23' Safari SE
Central , Connecticut
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,632
Like Nick, I own some fairly high-performance sea kayaks (a pair of P&H Scorpio LVs after I sold my Valley Avocet RM.) But we just bought a Folbot Citibot - a 10' folding sea kayak that fits into a backpack and weighs 25 pounds - for travelling. It's a blast to paddle - not fast, but not slow either. So easy to load (assembled) on the roof and very cleverly engineered. Not cheap ($1300) though.

I agree with Bill - lots of folks can have lots of fun with short-ish rotomolded boats. They seem to do just fine with abuse. Test-paddling is essential. And make sure you can lift it up onto the roof.

Tom
__________________
mutcth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2011, 11:44 AM   #314
Don't forget your cat nap
 
Ag&Au's Avatar
 
Port Orchard , Washington
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,464
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zigidachs View Post
We are seriously considering a pair of Kayaks. We have decided not to pursue a tandem because of weight and storage considerations. We have only canoe experience many years ago.

We do not plan sea kayaking or long trips, or even overnighters...we have this wonderful Airstream to sleep in....We will travel lakes ( e.g. some large ones....Jackson Lake near Yellowstone) and mostly rivers...like the Willamette in Oregon.

We are looking at the Current Designs "transition" Kayaks, namely the Vision 120 for nana, and the 140 for papa.

We are going to test drive these boats soon, but with all the experience on this site, I couldn't resist asking for comments and recommendations from this august group. Fire away folks, my "ears" are wide open and receptive!!! Thanks for your input......Zigi

Don't rule out the Hobie mirage drive boats. You can still paddle, but it sure is nice to just sit there and and pedal with your hands free to relax.

You can't go in river white water, but you can still pedal at quite a clip when there are white caps on the lake or lazy river.

Hobie's website was acting up when I posted this, but here is a link to a dealers page for the model we have. (1 Blue and 1 Yellow)

Hobie Mirage Sport Kayak 2012 - Austin Kayak - Product Details

You can leave the standard kayaks in your wake. Yes, it definitely will go fast enough to make a wake (and bow wave too).

It also has a small sail optional.

Ken
__________________
Ag&Au is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2011, 01:47 PM   #315
Road Geezer
 
Road Geezer's Avatar
 
2011 27' FB Flying Cloud
San Jose , California
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 268
Images: 34
Blog Entries: 20
As complete newbies with only one kayaking experience under our belt, my wife and I bought kayaks a year ago after months of research on the Internet, talking with store owners, etc. While this helped us narrow down the alternatives, we found that there was no substitute for actually getting in the different brands/models and paddling them around. I had decided on a particular brand and model based on what I had read about it. After paddling in it for less than five minutes at a dealer's open house, I was convinced it was wrong for me.

That experience saved me an expensive lesson. We did eventually settle on a couple Wilderness Zephyrs based on how the "felt" and handled at the open house. We love them.

BTW, we carry them on our Suburban using Yakima racks. Tule also has well designed kayak racks. Forget carrying them in or on your Airstream.

My $.02,

Paul
__________________
As far as I know, this is the oldest I've ever been.
Road Geezer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2011, 03:44 PM   #316
4 Rivet Member
 
Zigidachs's Avatar
 
2011 30' Classic
Ridgefield , Washington
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 297
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by nickcrowhurst View Post
We have a fleet of kayaks, including a Nordkapp HM, NDK Romany, NDK Explorer LV, Anas Acuta, NDK Romany LV, Tahe Greenland, Wilderness Systems North Star, self-build skin -on-frame, Dagger CFS, etc. (28 at the last count!). When the DW and I are paddling and exploring together, we now use a Current Designs Double Vision, a short, lightweight kevlar and glass tandem:

Double Vision

At about 60 pounds it weighs less than my Romany single, and is shorter than most of my singles. We've been paddling for 50 years, and from that experience I can thoroughly recommend the Double Vision for your puposes. A good friend, Mark Gluckman (co-author of "Sea Kayaking in Florida"), uses the Vision 140, and he is delighted with it. You will see some of our experiences here:

www.hiddencoast.blogspot.com

Nick.
Terrific Book....downloaded and read just now. We live in Oregon, but your book contains an abundance of practical information. Thank you for sharing. And thank you ( and all the others ) for your suggestions. We'll "test drive" a few boats before deciding.....
__________________
Zigidachs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2011, 04:27 PM   #317
INSANITY CENTRAL
 
doorgunner's Avatar
 
1986 32' Excella
2014 Interstate Ext. Coach
Citrus Heights , California
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,105
Images: 35
really???

Quote:
Originally Posted by w7ts View Post

You can leave the standard kayaks in your wake. Yes, it definitely will go fast enough to make a wake (and bow wave too).


you must paddle with some weak paddlers. a wake is normally indicative of a design flaw or totally overdriving the vessel and wasting effort.
Hobies are fine for what they are designed for , recreation. they are a great platform for moving video, and launching model rockets.upstream they are worthless.

There are a ton of boats out there. just get one with bulkheads fore and aft, and a good paddle, a PFD that FITS, spend money on that one, decide what your live is worth.
you will upgrade as your skills improve so if you are dealing with a local shop ask about their trade up program. take a few lessons.
yup craigs list is fine if you know what you want.
I'm really opinionated about yaks.
the Valley's are great British boats. if you like the factory built stuff.
Check out the Necky vector 13, I paddled one a few days ago and was impressed, also the Necky vector 14 is sweet, I hope to paddle one tomorrow. My friend owns Headwaters Kayak Shop. a plug for Dan.
anyway have fun. see you on the water, maybe
__________________
doorgunner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 04:00 PM   #318
4 Rivet Member
 
Zigidachs's Avatar
 
2011 30' Classic
Ridgefield , Washington
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 297
Images: 1
Having spent a great deal of time on goggle, and at the kayak shop(s) discussing kayaks before we take our beginner's lesson classes this weekend, I received a new recommendation which came from the owner of the Alder Creek store in Portland. He recommended that we strongly consider doing a demo paddle in the Wilderness Tempest Pro 170 (me) and 165 ( wife). His main logic was that when a boat is under 14' the "glide" is lost when you stop paddling. The chine on these boats provides improved secondary stability.......comments, experience??? Thanks for your input.....Zigi
ps...we have a ton of canoe experience on large lakes and rivers.
__________________
Zigidachs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 06:46 PM   #319
INSANITY CENTRAL
 
doorgunner's Avatar
 
1986 32' Excella
2014 Interstate Ext. Coach
Citrus Heights , California
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,105
Images: 35
you asked,
for a grand less you can get the rotomolded version. only 6 lbs.heavier.
then you could beat the crap out of it and not worry.
I see it all the time, new paddlers spending big money on a boat then not wanting to use it for fear of scuffing the finish. it's your money.
Me, I would get a RM boat, even a used one and spend that other grand on a dry suit. yup
thats it for me
__________________


www.popasmoke.com




Proud Appellation American





Vine View Heights is now closed.

YETI ( 65 Quart )

IGLOO (Ice Cube, 50 Quart )
doorgunner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2011, 07:48 PM   #320
2 Rivet Member
 
let's play's Avatar
 
1970 31' Sovereign
round lake , Illinois
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 96
necky

wife and i paddle necky lookshas IV 16 feet i believe, we spent the money on fiberglass and would have it no other way, as straight and true as the day they came home (1995) excellent boat, look for secondary stability, which means as you lean the boat actually becomes more stabil, i prefer to do my homework and buy once, sometimes overbuy but you never know what may happen down the road, as avid climbers/backpacker who has lost a leg it is nice to have such a great way to get around nature these days

good luck
cale
__________________
let's play is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2011, 08:34 PM   #321
INSANITY CENTRAL
 
doorgunner's Avatar
 
1986 32' Excella
2014 Interstate Ext. Coach
Citrus Heights , California
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,105
Images: 35
Headwaters Kayak Shop

I've helping my friend Dan as he recovers from hernia surgery. Mainly I rope him to a chair when I arrive and let him speak with customers. I do all the lifting and moving of everything else. Here's a few shots of his place in Lodi, we're getting ready for a kayak swap on the 15th of this month. at last count 110 kayaks, sup, and canoes. lots of consignment stuff going cheap.
The American made boats are especially nice. That would be the "Sterlings and the Eddylines".
basically , something for about any skill level.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	sept 2011 063.jpg
Views:	70
Size:	156.7 KB
ID:	141573   Click image for larger version

Name:	sept 2011 064.jpg
Views:	68
Size:	139.8 KB
ID:	141574  

Click image for larger version

Name:	sept 2011 065.jpg
Views:	65
Size:	157.4 KB
ID:	141575   Click image for larger version

Name:	sept 2011 066.jpg
Views:	70
Size:	176.1 KB
ID:	141576  

__________________
doorgunner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2011, 07:34 PM   #322
Rivet Master
 
Zeppelinium's Avatar

 
1975 31' Sovereign
1973 27' Overlander
1977 23' Safari
Palmer Lake , Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,908
Send a message via Skype™ to Zeppelinium
Kayaks, Airstsreams, and BALLOONS!

A small digression from the "what should I buy discussion."

Click image for larger version

Name:	P1000104 kayaks_as_balloons-s.jpg
Views:	101
Size:	165.0 KB
ID:	141677

I'm finally home after six weeks. It was a great trip, mostly scheduled around kayaking, but we finished it off at the Balloon Fiesta in Albuquerque.

Unfortunately, Uwe's trailer (the shinny one at the right) took a glance from a landing balloon, whose pilot wanted "to get a great picture in the reflection." As he skipped over the top of the Airstream he left a long crease in the top. Bummer. He just missed my Sovereign by less than a foot (hidden behind the kayaks).

For those who weren't aware, Ken_J put together an incredible rally of 103 RVs, of which I think 98 were Airstreams (and the 5 SOBs were guests of Streamers). The rally parks on the front row of the RV area, so you don't even have to go out on the field to see the show--the balloons fly right over you, as you can see from the photo--the field is essentially in front of the front row (and despite this year's accident, they rarely land on your Airstream!). It's a great rally. Contact him for next year's rally. He starts taking reservations in the spring.

Happy paddling,
Zep
__________________

Zeppelinium is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
kayak


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Kayaks and bikes jordandvm Off Topic Forum 42 02-26-2009 10:12 PM
kayaks zduke4x Off Topic Forum 22 02-26-2009 09:54 PM
How many Airstreams are out there? Andy R Our Community 13 12-09-2007 06:20 AM
Airstreams - they're everywhere! Foiled Again Our Community 1 02-01-2005 04:11 PM
Where 'O where are the airstreams at.... till Our Community 3 02-09-2004 06:31 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:34 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.