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Old 09-21-2003, 04:36 AM   #15
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Thanks for the information! We currently use the straps that came with the Thule racks and will now start using bow/stern tie-downs! I have a photo of my set-up which I will post when I find it.

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Old 09-21-2003, 03:20 PM   #16
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Carrying Kayaks

I use Yakima racks connected to the top carry rails and Yakima's Mako saddles. I haven't used tie downs with this setup. Last year we went from Minnesota to Pittsburgh and then did the circle tour of Lake Superior in Canada--2,750 miles with no problems. This is the picture on the day when I brought them home from REI.
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Old 09-22-2003, 11:11 AM   #17
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I carry around my 15' canoe on top of my 98 Caravan. I use the foam canoe blocks availabe from Campmor and the like, hooking them onto the gunwales aligned with the crosspieces on the roof rack, tied down with a heavy nylon strap in the center and two heavy nylon ropes front and back. I dont tie the bow and stern down as there is a sufficient connection on the ropes and the strap to hold the canoe to the vehicle.

Have used this arrangement since '98 and have gone several thousand miles (was a Scoutmaster, now am a Venture Crew Advisor ) with the canoe on the van like this. Stable in crosswind as well.

Recommend the truckers hitch mentioned above. Now I have to find a picture of it!
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Old 09-22-2003, 01:10 PM   #18
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Thanks for everyone's input on the canoe hauling. I have been strapping canoes to the tops of various vehicles for years, over thousands of miles. I definitely believe in bow and stern lines. I've also come to use the space under the canoe for additional storage.

My real question had to do with any possible conflict between the 'stern' of the canoe, sticking out behind the tow vehicle, and the front of the trailer. Maybe another way to ask this question is...

What's the distance between the back of the SUV and the front high point of the trailer? I guess now that I think about it, with a big SUV, even a long canoe (17') wouldn't extend more than 18-24" past the rear.


However, it is good to get such consistent positive feedback!
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Old 09-22-2003, 06:09 PM   #19
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I saw a pickup pulling a fifth wheeler this last week. There was a pair of Thule bars hardly 24" apart on top of the cab. About 4 feet of canoe was behind the last bar and clearly 10+ feet of a very nice kevlar Wenonah suspended across the hood -- no rack or nothin'! There was some sort of line from a front thwart to the bumper area. It looked like a unicorn waiting to find a good gust. Sorry I don't have a picture....


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Old 09-23-2003, 03:32 PM   #20
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Re DarkStar's response on front and rear tie downs:

I definitely agree with using the front and rear ropes unless you really know your knots or have the right kind of strapping to put sufficient tension on the boat.

Also required: enough roof! On a Grand Caravan I have 5-6 feet between the front and rear ropes. Most car roofs only have 3-4 feet from windshield to rear window. The 24" between the bars on that Thule is scary, especially considering how nice the We-No-Nah Kevlar boats are. A good blast of air from a passing truck and.....
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Old 09-23-2003, 05:44 PM   #21
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More on knots:

Even with the best knots, the leverage at the bow is tremendous without a bow line.
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Old 09-23-2003, 05:54 PM   #22
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I currently have a single place Folboat Aleut that I really enjoy. It rides under the bed cover of my pickup and assembles in about 10 minutes.

A few years ago, I had a two-place Folboat Greenland II that I really liked except that it was heavier, took longer to assemble, and was too light for the windage with just me alone in it. I have never converted my wife to a kayaker.

Folboat has a new single place, a little larger than the Aleut that looks like a real winner.

Frames and washboards are now aluminum instead of plastic. I just upgraded mine and the boat is much more rigid with the new frames. For a 35# boat, it moves very nicely.

Folboat has been in business since 1933. I used to see their ads in Popular Mechanics magazine when I was a small boy. They have kept up with new materials as they develop and make a very nice boat.
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For what it is worth for those of us who come by this late.

I have an F150 Supercrew. It carries three hobie kayaks with a clamp on rack attached to the back of the bed and a roof mounted rack for the cab. They both have extendable beams that allow me to load the kayaks easily by myself, one end at a time. Links below to the supplier, I bought them here.

CastleCraft Boat Racks for Trucks |* Canoe Truck Rack | Kayak Pick up Truck Rack | Sailboat Truck Rack

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