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Old 08-25-2005, 04:15 PM   #15
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how much can our insurance insure and at what price....

hi jack

yea, i think very differently about shade trees now and where to ride out a storm....morraine view state park comes to mind and was alot like this city park....big old trees.....except north of this park's treeline was 1000s of acres of corn so this row of trees was the first contact and 4-5 were up rooted.....trees in the middle of the park lost branches and trees on the south side (least wind) were unaffected.

there are probably threads on insurance where this issue could be better addressed but i checked with mine (progressive) when i purchased the plan. i too have "trailer to qualified repair facility" which i got them to agree would be an airstream facility. and if the tv is disabled a suitable replacement is included..... as for the tv, my truck is thought aig and included rental vehicle coverage and again they agreed that in this case the rental would be a 3/4 ton truck.

of course with each exceptional add-on to cover every possible situation, the premium would no doubt go up and we all want rates as low as possible while still covering the big things....so i'd have no issue with paying for a tv rental myself if i needed to get home......finding the rental might be a bigger issue, however.

luckily these folks had a suburban and a gm truck at their disposal.

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Old 08-25-2005, 06:48 PM   #16
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I think he's talking about the size of the receiver on the back of the truck (2 inch) that you slide your ball mount into. P.
Just for those that haven't had the joy of dealing with U Haul, most of the trailer balls are welded in place, and the receivers are likewise welded to the truck. It keeps them from walking away, but it also puts a screeching halt on putting a different size ball on the truck. But, it has been a few years since I used a U Haul truck, so the welded receiver and ball deal may not be happening any more.
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Old 08-25-2005, 07:36 PM   #17
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2air' ...

With that amount of wind ... I'm amazed you did not lose your awning. It's the one thing (OK, more than one) I'm paranoid about. When the wind picks up ... I'm out there rolling up the awning. You're a very lucky fellow.
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Old 08-25-2005, 10:52 PM   #18
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porky

you are not kiddin'

i fully expected to have some damage either to the arms, the cylinder or the mounting points on the skin/ribs. there actually was another box trailer in the park that had there 12 ft awning pulled off along with some skin.... they left it in the dumpster......

there is another thread here about 'how much wind can an airstream handle' and that was what reminded me to get these pictures up....since on this day mine handled quite a lot.

i too am paranoid about the big awning........years ago i neglected to lower the rear strut relative to the front on my moho and the awning filled with rain; the cylinder buckled and collapsed against the door......while i was sleeping. so i've been hyper about it since. usually i reel in the big one at nite if there is any possiblity of weather.....but this nite i just forgot. i think because the wind was mostly blowing along the length of the trailer/awning instead of across it, that i was spared.

while at jc last week i asked them to inspect everything related to the big tent and they couldn't find any issues.

so you are very right, i felt most lucky.......and a little guilty since others had major damage and i had zip........to my zip dee.

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Old 08-26-2005, 12:19 AM   #19
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Says a lot about the quality of that awning. You have that center support pole like mine. That provides a lot of additional bracing. I bet the folks at Zip-Dee would like to see your pictures and hear your story.

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Old 01-25-2007, 08:37 PM   #20
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more nasty midwestern weather...

well it's been a while since this thread was offered up as a warning...

for those that haven't seen it b4, start at the beginning.

here is another warning

2 days ago i passed through springfield missouri...

returning from florida and the can opener rally.

there is a koa there rated as one of the top in the country...

level, easy access, quiet, lots of trees, free wifi, reeally clean restrooms and laundry...

nice store, playground, full size baseball field, swimming pool...

did i mention lots of trees?

i stayed here last month and it really is a super koa, with LOTS of trees...

or was

my first clue things had changed was the utility crews working the access road and the tree crews chopping wood on the roadways...

i pulled in and thought... 'oh no what happened here?' and 'will i be able to get out again?'

there were downed trees everywhere and no signs of life, then...

a tree worker came out to my truck and said...
"the park is closed but we can find you a spot, follow me"

this was not koa staff but a tree cutter from florida working the storm cleanup.

i followed him and his flashlight, while he sipped a coors.

i got tucked in and plugged into electric; walked the dog and went to sleep.

the next morning this is what i found...

pictures to follow.

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Old 01-25-2007, 08:43 PM   #21
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in the frozen dawn i walked around and looked at the trees...

the actual koa staff told me this was "springfield's worse winter storm in 70 years"

i believed him too...

while the ice had passed after 10 days the trees show what happened...

bowing down to the weight of frozen water...

some are still bowed...

others have been cut back to relieve the pain.

and only stumps give a clue to the summer shade by the pool...

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Old 01-25-2007, 08:49 PM   #22
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no humans were harmed in this natural event...

which is amazing and the one happy note.

but a lot of trees were downed or damaged beyond repair...

this shot shows the pile of tree material removed from the park so far...

and they aren't done...

hard to measure scale in the photo, but this area of tree debris...

is a full sized baseball field, FULL to the outfield.

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Old 01-25-2007, 08:53 PM   #23
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a dangerous issue whenever ice storms happen...

is powerlines, downed power lines, LIVE down power lines...

NEVER EVER go near a line, touch a branch or even duck under a line...

very bad things will happen...

here is a shot of the power coming into the park...

the down line had been repaired 2-3 days after the storm...

and a good thing all of the rv sites had power via buried lines...

so there were no other live wires down at sites...

but IF you had been in this park the nite of the storm...

your trailer and tv would have been blocked in.

because the down power line was at the gate/entry...

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Old 01-25-2007, 08:55 PM   #24
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Classic MoHO

We have a rear bedroom with an escape window at the rear and keep a flaslight, fire extinguisher and keys to the deadbolt at under the bed ( not the fire extinguisher ) in case we have to bail out the rear window!
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Old 01-25-2007, 09:03 PM   #25
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of course there were folks camping here the night of the storm...

here is a shot of a 5th wheel covered in lumber...

and the campground owners also own a fleet of rental rvs.

last time i was here about 15 of them were neatly parked on the back row..

under the protection of these big old trees...

all but 2 had now been removed and taken to an indoor spot...

for protection from the elements and eventual repairs...

here is a shot of 1 that was still on site...

some folks also 'store' their rigs here out by a hedge row...

luckily these trees fell the other way...

but still loom dangerously over the prowler here...

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Old 01-25-2007, 09:08 PM   #26
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this is NOT the sort of tow vehicle ya wanna find...

in the next site over...

click the pic and read the doors...

so, i guess my message this time is...

in addition to locating and knowing how to use your rv escape routes...

also think a bit about the campground exits and roadways...

pick a site you can enjoy and take a minute to think about HOW to get out...

or get to higher ground or a shelter...

if the time comes

that is all for the springfield ice storm of 2007.

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feel free to add comments or posts as always...
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Old 01-25-2007, 09:33 PM   #27
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Whew! Your posts are a great safety check, 2Air. And those photos--holy smokes! Thanks for doing a terrific service with these reminders! Sometimes getting into the vacation/adventure mode makes one forget about the fact that reality never takes a break.
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Old 01-25-2007, 10:24 PM   #28
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Is there an escape window in my '74 Tradewind? How would I know? I have wondered about this.... Pam
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