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Old 02-22-2006, 11:36 PM   #1
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Interesting SOB

I just saw this on another forum. I thought it was interesting.

Apparently, the front wheels pivot somewhat when making turns, like a kid's wagon.

Your mission, should you decide to accept it, is to discuss the pro's and con's of this design.

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Old 02-22-2006, 11:40 PM   #2
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Could I begin by disagreeing with the statement that you don't need to level it, because it's already level wherever it goes? Most campsites I go to aren't THAT level. Isn't that why MH have levelling jacks? Unless I'm missing something obvious.
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Old 02-22-2006, 11:48 PM   #3
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I agree with the leveling thats what I was thinking as I was looking at the ad. The idea is cool though, but it wouldn't turn as tight.
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Old 02-22-2006, 11:55 PM   #4
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Could I begin by disagreeing with the statement that you don't need to level it, because it's already level wherever it goes? Most campsites I go to aren't THAT level. Isn't that why MH have levelling jacks? Unless I'm missing something obvious.
I noticed that too! I know in one of the campground spots we've had, this wheel configuration would have had the rear end raised on levelers about a foot high!


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Old 02-23-2006, 01:38 AM   #5
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Hey ....I mean hay

There is an Argosy with the same wheel configuration amongst unique Airstreams, somewhere on this forum . The consensus was that they would be difficult to back up ( Just like a hay wagon is difficult to back up )
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Old 02-23-2006, 01:45 AM   #6
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well dennis,
it looks to be of average construction and quality for a typical sob....

perhaps the ebay seller meant to suggest it's always stable where ever it goes....because of wheel location....recall that we usually refer to them as stabilizer jacks...not levelers...and this unit would need leveling as well....somewhat like a moho with the wheels at the corners....rolled onto blocks or wedges...

towing it should feel more like a single axle trailer with the aft wheels fixed and the fronts pivoting...the pivoting fronts would help with the turning/backing/parking radius....which would be very large otherwise...

it would be interesting to see the frame and what sort of suspension the axles utilize....and see it navigate in tow....

that big back door suggest 'toy hauler features or garage space too....


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Old 02-23-2006, 04:19 AM   #7
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And the beat goes on...

60 or more years ago, there were several designs from various manufacturers trying to deal with tongue weight, turning radius, etc...
Things are still developing....
I think it is great that ingenuity in basic design is still evolving...
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Interesting concept...but having towed hay wagons I would question the high speed stability as well as the turning radius. Anybody remember the old single swivel wheel trailers that were had mounted to the rear bumper?

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Okay after another cup of coffee and careful review of the pictures, I no longer question the overall stability, it doesn't use the same type of steering as the hay wagons that I am familar with Interesting that it was built by K-Z in NM...


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How is it different than a hay wagon ?
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How is it different than a hay wagon ?
Dave,
The hay wagons we used had a pivot point where the whole axle would pivot kind of like a little kids wagon and were very unstable at anything above a fast walk, IIRC the later ones had a automotive type steering installed and were more stable, this one appears to have a self centering type of steering, where the wheels will turn but are working against a spring or damper.

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I could be wrong, but I suspect you could sell tickets to watch people try and back that thing into a narrow campsite.

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It has a looong wheelbase. Got to be a winner!! lol!!
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There's a good reason for the "low reserve" - it's an accident happening.
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