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Old 05-04-2009, 09:14 PM   #1
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I'm driving a new Toyota!

Well, for the week anyway. On a business trip, step up to the rental counter and they give me a few choices. One of them is a Prius. I have never been in any hybrid. I am curious about hybrids, so I say “sure-I’ll take it”.The only cool thing about it is a back-up camera…which you need because you can’t see a darn thing out the rear window! Who the heck designed this thing?
I n one drive his afternoon, I satisfied my curiosity, I wish I had got the usual Chrysler…at least they are comfortable.
I am not knocking hybrid technology, I think we need it. But I’ll stick with diesel.
If this is Toyota’s flagship…I am not impressed. The most boring lump of plastic I have ever been in. A real appliance.

Gotta' get some work done, it's gonna' be a long week driving this thing,

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Old 05-04-2009, 09:30 PM   #2
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To bad they didnt offer you the Fussion... Maybe its not out yet in Hybrid. It is supposed to get 41 mpg. A guy at work has an 08, he hit a deer at 60 mph, and he was fine. The car wasnt that bad off either. I was surrprised.

I have always been concerned about those little tin cans, that Fussion impressed me, Kinda put my mind to the Crown vic a bit. The way it held up in a corner frontal. I also hear the Cobalt is pretty good also. I rented an 300 m ?? ( mopar) I felt like a mobster. I liked that to

I wonder if you can tow the hybrids behind a motor home... If you do, will it charge the batteries? or use the Motor home with an inverter, or genset to charge???
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Old 05-04-2009, 09:45 PM   #3
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Bill, lighten up. I drove a friend's a couple of years ago and it was comfortable, though it seemed small to me and felt like it weighed about 50 lbs. It has side mirrors, just like towing, to see behind you. All those read outs on the dashboard are cool too.

It's just one of many models Toyota makes, not the flagship. Maybe you can rent a Tundra and find out how good life can be.

Look at this as some sort of cosmic payback. I drove a diesel bus many, many years ago for a while—I've served my time.

Enjoy being green.

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I wonder if you can tow the hybrids behind a motor home... If you do, will it charge the batteries? or use the Motor home with an inverter, or genset to charge???
As of the 2008 model year, you could not tow a hybrid Prius or Civic. I would assume other models by the same manufacturers would be the same, but we all know what happens when you assume. It could have changed for this year, I haven't checked into it.
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Old 05-04-2009, 10:48 PM   #5
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If this is Toyota’s flagship…I am not impressed. The most boring lump of plastic I have ever been in. A real appliance.
Bill,

You are tough to please, it aint no truck, it is a passenger vehicle that is constantly given "Best Value" ratings not to mention highest resale value and highly rated reliaility and quality standards that provide customer satisfaction levels at the top. We have Prius (of course I am bias) that has 50,000 trouble free miles running on the original tires and regularly getting 500 miles on 11 gallons of regular. There are enough airbags to float the thing, XLNT GPS, HID headlights, stability control and in California, a 150,000 mile warranty on the hybrid battery. I am sure you have not tried this yet, but one can get 10ft two by fours in the thing with the hatch closed, although as I said it aint no truck.

But as many have said, to each his own, and next time you should get the Chrysler, after all, they are great rental cars. It was good to see that you did give the Toyota a try. And please consider my retort just playful banter, I enjoy reading differing opinions.

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I drove an Escape hybrid and was most impressed. However, even though it was 4WD, I was advised that fording (pun intended) a small stream to access my mining property was not advised. The USFS has purchased a number of hybrids here in the Durango office including a Suburban and a dual fuel F-150.
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I read the title, clicked the link and was floor to see Bill, of all folks driving a Toyota....then I read the post...funny.

In about 2-3 years it will be time to retire one in my fleet....am very torn as to which why to go, but I suspect Volt or similar may be next in my stable.
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Good post Billtex - I agree with you I would have gotten the Chrysler and rode in style!!!
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I drove an Escape hybrid and was most impressed. However, even though it was 4WD, I was advised that fording (pun intended) a small stream to access my mining property was not advised.
I can see the headline now- "Man Electrocuted Driving Hybrid Through Creek"
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Bill,

You are tough to please, it aint no truck, it is a passenger vehicle that is constantly given "Best Value" ratings not to mention highest resale value and highly rated reliaility and quality standards that provide customer satisfaction levels at the top. We have Prius (of course I am bias) that has 50,000 trouble free miles running on the original tires and regularly getting 500 miles on 11 gallons of regular. There are enough airbags to float the thing, XLNT GPS, HID headlights, stability control and in California, a 150,000 mile warranty on the hybrid battery. I am sure you have not tried this yet, but one can get 10ft two by fours in the thing with the hatch closed, although as I said it aint no truck.

But as many have said, to each his own, and next time you should get the Chrysler, after all, they are great rental cars. It was good to see that you did give the Toyota a try. And please consider my retort just playful banter, I enjoy reading differing opinions.

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Gene; There is no foreign truck, available in America, that can handle the payloads required by my toys...

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And Bill, we agree about good beer. And also, as Hunter Thompson would agree, touring Las Vegas quite loaded requires a white whale.

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I friend of mine bought a used 1996 Toyota pickup several years ago and he still has it. This wasn't for towing, just a daily drive. It turns out Toyota pickups had frame problems from something like 1996- 2001, so they just recalled it. They paid him 1.5 times the highest Blue Book value plus $1,000 off a new truck. So he got his fully purchase price back and $1,000! That is doing right by your customers.
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Toyos

I drive my Toyota 1987 Van daily, originally called the Van-Wagon here in the States, and the SpaceMobile in England.

It was green before it was cool to be green. It has a short wheel base, you're sitting on the engine, (no it doesn't get hot, there's an asbestos wrap) and you can do a u-turn in one lane.

It's not a tow vehicle.. only 4 cylinders, but I hope to keep it ANOTHER 23 years.
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Gene; There is no foreign truck, available in America, that can handle the payloads required by my toys...

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Maybe it's just my overdeveloped sense of irony, but has anyone noticed that Chrysler filed for bankruptcy and is headed towards Fiat? Pontiac is over and GM is racing to beat a June deadline. Despite billions of dollars of taxpayer dollars, U.S. auto makers are still teetering on the edge.

If things keep going this way, Bill, there may be no American truck, available in America, that can handle the payloads required by your toys. Oh, by the way, I think you can find a Hino that will pull your truck and your toys.

As for Toyota, I have owned two, a 1973 Celica and a 1988 Pickup. Both were utterly reliable and are probably still on the road.
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