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02-12-2014, 09:44 AM
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Rivet Master
1986 32' Excella
Currently Looking...
Canton
, Georgia
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,342
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I wasn't implying that other people unlock there cars with there antennas, but merely letting people know what I do when I'm in a bind with keys locked in my van. As a Certified Locksmith for 25 years, who trained many locksmiths how to properly unlock vehicles, I just don't want to ever have to make that call for myself. Locks and there associated mechanisms are a great mystery for the majority of people and it's best left that way. It was good for my business and for the safety of the public. I will say that locks on cars technically are not "electronic", at least not in the door where a novice might be trying to "bang around" and open their vehicle. Most power car lock mechanisms are still mechanical in 2014 and just assisted by a powered actuator or just the actuator and no key cylinder and some may be vacuum operated and that's it. I would never, ever recommend you break a window unless its a medical emergency! The risk for your safety and your wallet lies in damaging and/or actuating a side air bag more than anything. The "electronics" for power locks is not in the door, it's usually under the dash. Also, if anyone needs to call someone for help, make sure you use a company with certified locksmiths. I have repaired the damage caused by uneducated people doing it including, but not limited to firemen, police, and tow drivers. I'm glad they are there to help us, just not for that. Most people are so relieved that it's unlocked that they don't realize the damage was done. Even with roadside assistance,I would request it or make sure you are covered for the damage they may do. I had a lot of fun over the years helping people get into there cars, businesses, homes, and safes!
Rob
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02-12-2014, 10:52 AM
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
, More Than Anywhere Else
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 10,868
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skatiero
The risk for your safety and your wallet lies in damaging and/or actuating a side air bag more than anything.
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Never occurred to me; I've never had a vehicle with side air bags before. Learn something new every day. But I have seen folks damage a solenoid in the door (or the wiring for one, anyway) that actuated their locks by trying to jimmy the lock.
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02-12-2014, 02:02 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,319
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I have a set of keys, my wife has a set of keys, and there is another set hidden outside the trailer, but I'm not telling you where!
Same thing for the truck.
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Steve
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02-12-2014, 02:28 PM
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Rivet Master
1986 32' Excella
Currently Looking...
Canton
, Georgia
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,342
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Protagonist, that is very true! I still think for the simplicity of it that tie strapping in your own location somewhere on the car and/ or AS is the way to go. Cutting many copies is definitely helpful! I have a zillion stories of peoples woes over the years and I never laughed at them because I'm human too, but this poor guy once called with his keys locked in his car and we went out and unlocked it and then we cut him six new sets because he said I don't ever want that to happen again. He took off and I thought I wouldn't hear from him again, but 30 minutes later he called again furious and said you just won't believe what I did... He locked all seven sets in the car. I unlocked it for free.
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02-12-2014, 02:45 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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You can hide your spare key under the truck, so when you're gone no one can find it. And when you're there, so is the truck (and spare key).
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2012 FC RB, Michelin 16, ProPride 1400
2016 Ram 1500 Laramie Crew Cab 4X4 Ecodiesel 3.92 axles
The Truth is More Important Than the Facts
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02-12-2014, 03:20 PM
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Contributing Member
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Austin (Hays County)
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,164
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I have a realtor's lock box securely riveted to the pull-out tray that my power cord wraps on. Box is set to a code that I can easily input in the dark if needed. It has been handy several times in the storage yard when I forgot to take my keys.
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2018 Interstate GT, "Sabre-Dog V"
WBCCI #9632
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02-12-2014, 04:13 PM
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Rivet Puller
2003 28' Safari S/O
Atlanta Burbs
, Georgia
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,006
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I made three sets of spares in addition to my wife's and mine. One set with the TV and the other two are worn by my dogs who are almost never left alone. Like a hidden money belt, I made a place inside their collars for two keys each.
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02-12-2014, 07:31 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 25' International CCD FB
Northridge
, California
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 516
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theres also this kind that hangs so it could go on the door handle or another place. I doubt someone will take the time to stand outside the trailer and try to saw it off hehe.
Real Estate Products-Lockbox-Combination-Pushbutton - REALTOR STORE
LilNomad
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02-12-2014, 09:22 PM
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Rivet Master
1963 19' Globetrotter
Currently Looking...
Orion
, Illinois
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 714
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Last week , after a snow storm, wife hid the spare key/remote for my CRV under the newly fallen snow when it fell out of her coat pocket. However , she is sure that she'll find it ; it's only under at least a foot of snow within a two block area of our house.
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02-12-2014, 09:45 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1961 22' Safari
Union
, Oregon
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 477
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Best use for silicone caulk I know of.
Smear some black silicone somewhere on the underside of your vehicle, preferably on something black. If you cannot find something black under your vehicle you should not be allowed to have the keys for it. Press a spare key into the silicone. Smear some more silicone over the key and don't be neat about it. Throw a handful or two of dirt onto the wet silicone. Now it looks like a bit of dried mud. Your spare key will wait patiently there for you and will not have a bit of rust or corrosion even years later. Use a pocket knife, stick, rock, or something to gouge the key loose when needed.
And you wondered how you were going to use up some of that worthless silicone.
Sam
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02-16-2014, 07:06 PM
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Retired
2008 30' Classic
Currently Looking...
Livingston
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 850
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gmw photos
I never lock my trailer, because my dog is in there often. In case of an emergency, I would hope someone nearby would see the yellow placard on the door that says "Pet Inside, please rescue"
As for the truck, this dang dog can lock or unlock it by stepping on the button on the door, so yes, I keep a second key outside the truck. She locked me out at a gas station one time...lucky the window was down enough to reach in !
I too like the retractable "janitors keyholder"
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My dachshunds did this with my Ford Ranger in our popup days, at night in the rain. My wife had her keys, in her purse, in the truck. The driver's window was open just a crack, could not get a hand in. It took a long stick and a hundred tries to hit the unlock button on the passenger armrest while dodging two dogs who wanted out. After that, she and I made sure window was open or the keys wrre in hand. A spare key without the security chip would open the lock and would fit in a wallet, like it did in the old Maverick, but I never got one cut....
The new TV for the AS has remote entry on the door.
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AIR 71620
WBCCI 5809 Reg 9 Unit 155
2008 Classic 30'
2019 F250 4x4
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02-16-2014, 09:00 PM
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2 Rivet Member
North Fayston
, Vermont
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 84
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Hiding a key
We put the key in a plastic bag in a stinky slinky. We rarely use the slinky, since we use a port -a - potty in our trailer. Or we use a hide a key box and put it in the back of the truck under something. The back of our truck doesn't lock.
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02-16-2014, 09:55 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,328
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I hide 2 keys....different ones. One opens a compartment. Therein I hide the entry key. Hopefully you have or can fashion the compartment key to resemble an entry key.
Neil
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FreshAir #12407
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Kirk Creek, Big Sur, Ca. coast.
1966 Trade Wind
1971 Buick Centurion convertible
455 cid
1969 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight
455 cid
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02-17-2014, 12:14 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2007 27' Safari FB SE
Olympic Peninsula
, WA
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 47
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I've got a complete set of spare keys in a pill bottle bolted to the propane hold down bracket, inside the cover. Painted it silver, you'd have to be looking for it to know where it is. Haven't needed them so far.
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