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Old 02-11-2014, 01:07 PM   #15
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While at the Florida RV Show in Tampa, FL iI saw a large number of mid priced 5th wheel and TT with keyless entry locks. But most of those rigs have single lock entry door's. Having worn dog tags for over 30 years I have my keys around my neck, to include one for the tow vehicle.
If traveling with friends we give them a set of keys for your camper. Just in case they have to take care of your dog.

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Old 02-11-2014, 01:15 PM   #16
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Mine is taped to the back side of the clean-out cap. Now that you know, I would think twice about the key if you see the black tank lever pulled open for security. I never had a problem with missing keys...I still use the same key chain from 1978. You can always use the retractable key chain that janitor's use...hard to misplace.
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Old 02-11-2014, 01:46 PM   #17
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After answering similar questions over the years with my former lock and safe company, the simplest, and cheapest method is to tie strap a key somewhere on or under your trailer. It can be twisted off when needed and then put back later with a new strap. Of course, for the regular repeat offenders the combo key box like GeocamperAS is a great idea. I don't use either back up method because I keep my picks in the car, but I' m just as screwed without them. I know what you're thinking, but if your keys are locked in there as well for your car... I never do that but, if I did, I put a small bend in the end of the antenna on my van which when removed will unlock it inside the door.

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Old 02-11-2014, 01:59 PM   #18
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I never lock my trailer, because my dog is in there often. In case of an emergency, I would hope someone nearby would see the yellow placard on the door that says "Pet Inside, please rescue"

As for the truck, this dang dog can lock or unlock it by stepping on the button on the door, so yes, I keep a second key outside the truck. She locked me out at a gas station one time...lucky the window was down enough to reach in !
I too like the retractable "janitors keyholder"
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Old 02-12-2014, 05:57 AM   #19
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I never do that but, if I did, I put a small bend in the end of the antenna on my van which when removed will unlock it inside the door.
For any vehicle with electronic locks, that's a good way to do several hundreds of dollars of damage to the locking mechanism. It would literally be cheaper, easier, and quicker to fix if you just broke out a window!

If you have electronic door locks on your vehicle, there is no substitute for a spare key, kept somewhere safe.
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Old 02-12-2014, 06:09 AM   #20
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Some people bash ONSTAR, but with ONSTAR and access to a phone, I know I can get into the truck and my spare trailer keys.
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Old 02-12-2014, 10:44 AM   #21
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I wasn't implying that other people unlock there cars with there antennas, but merely letting people know what I do when I'm in a bind with keys locked in my van. As a Certified Locksmith for 25 years, who trained many locksmiths how to properly unlock vehicles, I just don't want to ever have to make that call for myself. Locks and there associated mechanisms are a great mystery for the majority of people and it's best left that way. It was good for my business and for the safety of the public. I will say that locks on cars technically are not "electronic", at least not in the door where a novice might be trying to "bang around" and open their vehicle. Most power car lock mechanisms are still mechanical in 2014 and just assisted by a powered actuator or just the actuator and no key cylinder and some may be vacuum operated and that's it. I would never, ever recommend you break a window unless its a medical emergency! The risk for your safety and your wallet lies in damaging and/or actuating a side air bag more than anything. The "electronics" for power locks is not in the door, it's usually under the dash. Also, if anyone needs to call someone for help, make sure you use a company with certified locksmiths. I have repaired the damage caused by uneducated people doing it including, but not limited to firemen, police, and tow drivers. I'm glad they are there to help us, just not for that. Most people are so relieved that it's unlocked that they don't realize the damage was done. Even with roadside assistance,I would request it or make sure you are covered for the damage they may do. I had a lot of fun over the years helping people get into there cars, businesses, homes, and safes!

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Old 02-12-2014, 11:52 AM   #22
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The risk for your safety and your wallet lies in damaging and/or actuating a side air bag more than anything.
Never occurred to me; I've never had a vehicle with side air bags before. Learn something new every day. But I have seen folks damage a solenoid in the door (or the wiring for one, anyway) that actuated their locks by trying to jimmy the lock.
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Old 02-12-2014, 03:02 PM   #23
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I have a set of keys, my wife has a set of keys, and there is another set hidden outside the trailer, but I'm not telling you where!

Same thing for the truck.
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Old 02-12-2014, 03:28 PM   #24
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Protagonist, that is very true! I still think for the simplicity of it that tie strapping in your own location somewhere on the car and/ or AS is the way to go. Cutting many copies is definitely helpful! I have a zillion stories of peoples woes over the years and I never laughed at them because I'm human too, but this poor guy once called with his keys locked in his car and we went out and unlocked it and then we cut him six new sets because he said I don't ever want that to happen again. He took off and I thought I wouldn't hear from him again, but 30 minutes later he called again furious and said you just won't believe what I did... He locked all seven sets in the car. I unlocked it for free.
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You can hide your spare key under the truck, so when you're gone no one can find it. And when you're there, so is the truck (and spare key).
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Old 02-12-2014, 04:20 PM   #26
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I have a realtor's lock box securely riveted to the pull-out tray that my power cord wraps on. Box is set to a code that I can easily input in the dark if needed. It has been handy several times in the storage yard when I forgot to take my keys.
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Old 02-12-2014, 05:13 PM   #27
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I made three sets of spares in addition to my wife's and mine. One set with the TV and the other two are worn by my dogs who are almost never left alone. Like a hidden money belt, I made a place inside their collars for two keys each.
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theres also this kind that hangs so it could go on the door handle or another place. I doubt someone will take the time to stand outside the trailer and try to saw it off hehe.
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