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Old 12-13-2005, 12:26 PM   #99
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Someday smoking in public will be akin to farting in public and considered unacceptable everywhere.

I quit FARTING 14 years ago . Though I've gained a lot of weight, my wife is very appreciative.
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Old 06-29-2006, 05:32 PM   #100
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Someday smoking in public will be akin to farting in public and considered unacceptable everywhere.
That day is getting closer.

I am happy to announce that I haven't had a cigarette since RichardT gave me the word over 18 months ago.

As of this coming December, my health insurance rates will go down by $90/month. Between that and the price of smokes in Minnesota, I will save about $2500 per year.
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Old 06-29-2006, 05:39 PM   #101
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Old 06-29-2006, 05:51 PM   #102
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Wow - This Is A Eight Page Issue - Generally Speaking, Many Of Us Are Past Smokers And We Are Suffering From The Negative Health Impact. We Really Hate It. But I Still Remember Those Wonderful Cubin Cigars I Smoked In Spain. Oh, After A Real Good Dinner, A Double Coffee, Sniffer Of Congac - Nice, But If I'd Kept It Up, I'd Be Dead And No Airstream. Today - Is Nice
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Old 06-29-2006, 06:23 PM   #103
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Someday smoking in public will be akin to farting in public and considered unacceptable everywhere.
when did farting in public become unacceptable?..... it happens...but i do make a practice of staying out of subway cars and elevators....
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Old 06-29-2006, 07:11 PM   #104
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It's so good to hear from folks who have stopped smoking and believe it was the right decision. I am a geriatric nurse and have taken care of so many elderly people in the last days of their lives (whether they knew it or not). All wish they had known what would eventually happen to their bodies. It's not all the lungs you know. Being unable to breathe is horrific; however, having your heart fail you and your lungs and body fill with fluids is also horrific. Most folks don't realize that when you are suffering from chronic lung disease you cannot be given massive amounts of oxygen--it will cause your breathing to cease. We can give you a little, but just enough to keep you alive and gasping for the next breath. Cigarettes are the only legal drug that will kill EVERYONE who uses them and a third of the people who live with them.
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Old 06-29-2006, 08:55 PM   #105
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If I could I would apologise to every person that I affected with my smoke. Nothing smells worse. It is a rude addiction that most users are programed to belive affects no one else and that if they do it outside it affects no one but themselves. It is like Loud music and can travel.

I have a question for you.

I know. Of course in writing this sounds harsh, but I have no such intentions.

If your neighbor turned his stereo up for 15 minutes at a time 20 times per day and the bass was so loud it rattled your windows, would you care?
Would you say something?
How about if they played loud music while you were sitting at the river enjoying the day?
What about in the car next to you at a light?
How about at work or at dinner?
When would you tell them it would be ok to blast their music to the point that it affected you?
I mean come on it is their right isnt it? I mean they like loud music that rattles windows, shouldnt they be able to play it any time and anywhere?
Even if it does bother you?
Someday smoking in public will be akin to farting in public and considered unacceptable everywhere.
Well, well well,
I do not believe that if my neighbor is enjoying a cigar in his yard, and I can smell it, that it is a health hazard. I also do not believe that a whiff of cigarette smoke is going to hurt anybody, so long that it is not constant exposure. I think the whole second hand smoke is a hyped scenario that is over-rated as presented. It would not be, if there's 2 chain smoking parents that stink up the house all day long with kids or other adults in the same vicinity.
Smokers have rights, too. You can leave if the smoke bothers you, or don't go in the first place. Choices! still a free country!
Written by an occasional smoker, but generally a non smoker.
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Old 06-29-2006, 09:17 PM   #106
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Congrats Mark I am glad for you.
I am still a non smoker too.


Uwe, why did you quote me? I am unsure what topic in my old post is addressed in your new post.

And do you smoke in your trailer?
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Congrats Mark I am glad for you.
I am still a non smoker too.
I am glad for mark, too. It is very hard for nicotine addicts to stop the habit. Congrats!

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Uwe, why did you quote me? I am unsure what topic in my old post is addressed in your new post.
Nothing specific, just the general consensus that suddenly smoking is "rude". You state that nothing smells worse...I feel different. My friends sometimes say that my ( occasional) cigar smells good to them. Heaven knows why, but that's what they say. I am not here to flame you, just giving another viewpoint. Some have a problem with smoking - they can't quit. Some don't, like myself. I can enjoy a good smoke, and then leave it be for 3 weeks. I can be out and smoke for a full weekend, but then don't miss it during the week. I can forget about smoking, and see a nice box of cigars, and think " yeah, let's have one". I do not consider myself a chain smoker, and I think that those that have the nicotine addiction should not spread doom over those that do not have that addiction.
However, it seems that you do have a smoking problem, and I congratulate you for mastering it - wholeheartedly, and with no reservations!

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And do you smoke in your trailer?
Not usually, only occasionally when no one else is bothered by it. I am well aware that many people do not like the smell of burning tobacco....
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Old 06-29-2006, 10:41 PM   #108
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Congradulations for quitting.

That's all I have to say from a person who grew up and lived in a house with (eventually over time) 4 smokers. I blame alot of my adult respitory ills on my forced indoctrination to cigarette smoke.
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Old 06-30-2006, 12:13 AM   #109
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Hi, well after reading all this about smokeing, I thought I would give my opinion. I personally never smoked. I don't need a pacifier sticking out of my mouth all day. It does invade my freedom. I can't even go to the Colorado mountains, to get away from smoggy Southern California, with out some idiot ruining it by smokeing into my fresh air! I'm allergic to smoke and when close to it, My eyes water, my nose runs, I start sneezeing, and get a head ache. Please smoke inside of your car or home with all of your windows and doors closed and don't do it with small children or pets locked in with you. It does bother other people.
Yes, I had a bad habit too. I used to bite my nails. Until my wife said "look at other people while they bite their nails" Nasty looking, I quit. Look at people who smoke; they come outside all hunched over, in that block the wind while I light this thing up posture, and puff away like there's no tomorrow. People I work with who smoked [while my three year old granddaughter was dying of cancer] [not smoke related] I envited them all to come to City of Hope with me so they could see all of the patients with no hair and tubes sticking out of their arms, chests, and any where left to put an I.V. not to mention oxygen tubes sticking out of their noses. By the way, not one single smoker took me up on this offer to visit City of Hope hospital.
Maybe, when someone tells you to put that nasty smelling thing out, they're really trying to help you too. There are just too many excuses for not quiting. And some day all smokers will quit, some when they stop that nasty habit of breathing!

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Old 06-30-2006, 12:56 AM   #110
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my 2 cents

I am not a smoker, but I have seen my share of addicts in various forms. I think most if not all smokers will tell you that if they could just up and quit/no excuses, they would have done it a long time ago. It's simply that addicting and exceedingly difficult to quit without quite a lot of help. And like most addicts, they get the craving, do their business, and they do it in spite of knowing how it bothers others and themselves. If severe health problems, poisoning those you love, pissing off the general public, wasting money, bad breath, yellow teeth and stinking up your house aren't "reason" enough to quit, then this must be powerful stuff.

Of course there are those who just don't care about others, or those who like to smoke and do it now and then for enjoyment, but I think most smokers hate it almost as much as the rest of us do.

Like anything; alcohol, drugs, casual sex, junk food, etc. a smoke can be an enjoyable thing if done in moderation and it's something a person can walk away from. I've heard the best way to quit smoking is to never start.

Airstreams on the other hand...no such thing as too much aluminum.

Congratulations Mark and all other former smokers.
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:57 PM   #111
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It had been 113 weeks, 5 days, 4 hours, 56 minutes, 21 seconds since I stopped.
Cigarettes not smoked = 16,720
Money saved = $2,466.20

I had forgotten till I found the link in my favorites to the quitmeter.

Has anyone else continued with being a non smoker as a result of this thread?

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Old 12-30-2006, 05:25 AM   #112
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I am proud that I haven't smoked for 106 weeks and two days.

When you have been a non-smoker for 2 years, BlueCross BlueShield is supposed to reclassify you as a nonsmoker and reduce your premiums. In my case the reduction would be $100/month.

So I wrote them a letter requesting a premium reduction. They wrote back, informing me that I would not be reclassified. Their 'records' show I have not been a nonsmoker for two years.

First, I have no idea what records they have showing I did not quit smoking. Second, I am offended that they are calling me a fraud and a liar.

I sent another letter last week. I expect a response after the first of the year.

In the meantime, I am considering what approach to use if they continue to refuse my reduction in premium. Any suggestions?

Thanks again Richard for being the impetus. I was thinking about you last week and wondering why we don't see your name as often as we used to.
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