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Old 05-23-2006, 03:12 PM   #15
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I've bought and sold on ebay and every transaction has faired well. Sold numerous Airstream parts and purchased quite a few - sometimes it's the only place to find them. My wife has bought a lot of clothing for the kids - mostly Abercrombie. I sold my '74 Tradewind successfully on ebay - a few bidders came for an inspection - transaction was seemless. I would never make a large purchase without an inspection such as RV or auto or an expensive item without doing research, i.e. reputable retailer.
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:13 PM   #16
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An auction or any sort of purchase be it long distance or across the street is a contract. To have a contract you must have a meeting of the minds. You cannot have a meeting of the minds without full disclosure of the property or properties defects or attributes.
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Old 05-24-2006, 06:22 AM   #17
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JohnBoy, you beat me! I've been on eBay since 4/98. I even bought Airstream One on eBay. About 3 months ago I also bought my Cadillac Allante on eBay too.
Since I'm a bit of a packrat I don't selll much.... but every once in a long while I'll put something up for sale.
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Old 05-24-2006, 08:07 AM   #18
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I've had great sucess on eBay . I've never bought or sold anything on ebay that wasn't described honestly. I bought my 2001 2500 Suburban sight unseen. Had to fly to Florida to pick it up and it was better than described and I never had a problem with it. Turned around and bought a 2000 Beatle from the same guy and picked it up in Virginia. Sold a $40,000.00 Land Rover on ebay. You have to ask the right questions and even ask to call the seller. It is a contract if you are the winning bidder, but if at the end of the day the item truly isn't as described your obligated to yourself not to complete the transaction. If you back out of the contract for almost any other reason you shouldn't be on eBay and it will probably show up in your feedback.
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An auction or any sort of purchase be it long distance or across the street is a contract. To have a contract you must have a meeting of the minds. You cannot have a meeting of the minds without full disclosure of the property or properties defects or attributes.
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Hard to argue with that. Full discloser = Go look at it! If the seller won't let you look at..run the other direction. There'll always be something that is not stated in an ebay description that some buyer will object to. Might be a minor scratch, might be something bigger. I've seen it all. Sold some 100 year old barn boards to a guy once, he came to pick them up but first stuck a moisture meter in one and said the moisture content was too high....idiot. Should I be blamed for not "disclosing" the moister content of boards that had been drying on the side of a barn for 100 years?

The AS I bought on ebay had mouse poop in it. Heck, it's pbbly got mouse poop in it right now. To me it wasn't an issue, but if it were, I could have just turned the other way because I went and looked at it first.

Not to harp on the original poster that prompted me to reply, but think of what happened there. He was bidding on something he hadn't seen against(I'll bet) others who probably went and looked at it. I'll also bet he drove over thinking "what a great deal!" only to be disappointed. Now the seller and the other bidders (who are pbbly thinking "he paid how much for that p.o.c.?") are delayed in completing the auction.

I'm not trying to argue with y'all. I'm just trying to give advice - If you assume that the seller of something as big as an AS is fully disclosing everything about the unit that a person can see if they go look at it in person - you are setting yourself up for disappointment.

I'm a big fan of ebay and auctions in general but they aren't for everyone and to repeat - they aren't the same as classified ads.

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Old 05-24-2006, 08:52 AM   #20
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Not to harp on the original poster that prompted me to reply, but think of what happened there. He was bidding on something he hadn't seen against(I'll bet) others who probably went and looked at it. I'll also bet he drove over thinking "what a great deal!" only to be disappointed. Now the seller and the other bidders (who are pbbly thinking "he paid how much for that p.o.c.?") are delayed in completing the auction.

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johnboy - ease off - this is supposed to be a friendly forum. I thought about replying to your first rant, but didn't want to inflame the situation. Now that you continue to berate Ultradog, I've got to throw in my two cents....(full disclosure I don't know him from Adam). You went off on him pretty hard about violating eBay policies, but in your last 2 sentences you proudly proclaim that you violated eBay policy also!

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In fact, a lot of big vehicle transactions, though started via ebay, end early when someone goes to inspect the vehicle and makes an offer. That's how I got mine!
That's a violation of policy for the seller AND the buyer. See: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...ebay-sale.html
and: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...umventing.html

Step away from the soapbox and slowly back away.....
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Old 05-24-2006, 09:23 AM   #21
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I figgered someone would catch that but I had seen the ad for this on another classified website and the seller clearly stated it was for sale locally and on ebay. He also set up a "buy it now" auction so he ended up paying the ebay fees on this anyway. I broke no laws.

And again, I'm not tryin to be unfriendly- I just have a somewhat acidic method of doling out advice about how to avoid disappointments. Ebay keeps a pretty close eye on "contact the seller" communications these days. Friend of mine got scolded (officially by ebay) when they caught the words "end auction early" in a communication to a seller. I think they pbbly have a filter of some sort to alert them to any such communication. I don't blame them.

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Old 05-24-2006, 09:44 AM   #22
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I have bought and sold many things on eBay and have never been burned. The key is asking many questions of the seller BEFORE bidding. Their response time is usually an indication of how the transaction will go. On large ticket items such as an Airstream, may the buyer beware! It is always reccomended that you have a telephone and/or email conversation about the specifics and attempt to see it in person, and if you are a high bidder, pay for the item unless you have an email with an "out clause" in writing or the buyer is an outright liar(most airstreamers are pretty honest except when talking about the size of fish that got away ). Read feedback info on the seller and communicate. That won't guarantee a positive transaction but will minimize the negatives.

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Old 05-24-2006, 09:53 AM   #23
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He was bidding on something he hadn't seen against(I'll bet) others who probably went and looked at it.
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I'm not certain how you could draw that conclusion. Since there is no way to know.
You know Johnboy, I am not real interested in trying to convince you that it was not my rosy expectations that killed the deal. It was the seller's false representation of it that killed the deal. I've tried twice to get you to see that but obviously haven't succeeded.
There is an old quote that goes:
"the wicked flee though no one pursues them"
I believe that quote. And I believe that the inverse of that quote is also true;
That if you have some virtue you will see virtue in others.
I have no wish to go through life suspicious of my fellow man. I just naturally assume he is on the up and up and he is as trustworthy as I try to be. Some times I get fooled though. And when I do I just have to deal with the consequences. Cest le Vie
Ultimately though I'd rather go through life believing in the honesty of my fellow man (even if I get burned on occasion) rather than have the outlook that he can not be trusted.
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Old 05-24-2006, 01:39 PM   #24
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Stingray, I was the high bidder on an AS about 3 years ago. Drove the 200 miles to go pick it up and it was so vile that I wouldn't have taken it if you gave it to me. The seller got Very hostile when I told him I didn't want it.
It was way out in the boonies of WI and here I am with a pocket full of 100$ bills.
I was VERY glad I had brought a buddy with me.
I haven't been afraid for my person like that in a long while.
As it turned out he gave me a non paying bidder feedback which is the only one I have. Rather crumby if not harrowing experience over all.
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Jerry,

The thing was that I had written up a complete description on the trailer....I am extremely anal, when it comes to describing an item (it's the military in me), just to make sure that the buyer knows what he/she is getting, just so there are absolutely no misunderstandings. I ended up gutting that trailer to redo it, got pissed off and sold it for a fraction of what I initially had sold it for.

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Old 05-24-2006, 08:29 PM   #25
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Folks chill out I started this thread just to hear some feed back I had decided to sell a few things and just wanted to know your comments. Oh in one of the post it said something about mouse poop I thought all Vintage Airstream's naturally came with those, ours did.
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I have no wish to go through life suspicious of my fellow man. I just naturally assume he is on the up and up and he is as trustworthy as I try to be. Some times I get fooled though. And when I do I just have to deal with the consequences.

This is good. Try to keep your karma where you don't worry about it. You will never be able to control the actions of others, but if you are too doubtful it will paralyze you enough, you won't have a good time.
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Old 05-27-2006, 08:55 PM   #27
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After seeing some past post I notice some of us sell on ebay. I have sold a few things I put a vintage picnic set on yesterday #4464904203. Just curious to see what you sell and how you did. My sideline job is antiques my husband calls it junk but whatever sometimes I run in to what I think is a unique thing.

I just looked at your WONDERFUL picnic set.. I am shocked you only got 25.00 bucks for it! And out of that, you lost fees to Ebay, and probably Paypal. Too bad I didn't see it :-(

I've been on Ebay for a loooooooong time, since 1998, and have 5040 positive feedbacks (total), with 100%.

I buy AND sell.

I miss the old days.. things sold better and Ebay was less flooded.
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Old 05-28-2006, 08:16 AM   #28
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We purchased our first Airstream on e-Bay. The gentleman knew little about the trailer and we knew less. what gullible lucky people we were. I remember picking it up I Peoria, IL he had it on a lot of a Cell Phone business that he owned. The AS sat on the corner and I had to pull into the traffic to hitch it up.
I used to sell religious books and collectible item on e-Bay but then the market became funny. Everyone thought they were an expert and could suddenly speak Latin and Greek, the prices dropped dramatically. I would get negative feedback for one dogeared page on a 75 year old book someone bought for $2.00. I quit before I lost my normally cool demeanor.
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