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Old 08-07-2007, 08:25 PM   #15
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Ken is correct, it is from a mesquite tree. Let me know if you need more, my backyard fills up with them every year. Most likely a rodent was storing them in the pan.
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Pods are quite sweet and whole pod composition is 80% carbohydrate, 13% protein, 25% fiber, and 3% fat .
Not a significant source of fat, saturated fat, cholesterol, vitamins A and C, calcium
or iron. They grind the entire mesquite bean (pod) and producea meal that is 11 percent to 17 percent protein.


I would have the tower keep any panels that have fallen off and remove anything about to fall off. Toss the pods and isulation. Tie and duct tape everything else and keep on trucking.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:30 PM   #16
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Thanks Ken... mystery solved

I think its probably rats.. so we got a rats nest, biting ants, mesquite pods and no belly pan

Things are looking up.. We found a guy in El Paso who is going to fumigate for us, the trailer is now in a truck stop instead of an off ramp, some of the crap fell out on the journey and our transport guy is going to strap up the trailer so nothing else falls off


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From a mesquite tree. My learned southwestern guess is you got critters that make nests. Like some kind of rodents? Or some really strange humans using mesquite pods for belly pan insulation. Unfortunately we're pretty far from Lordsburg too. Maybe somebody south of Tucson or near Las Cruces NM.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:45 PM   #17
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I can't think of the critter right now, but there is a type of rat that lives in the desert that collects stuff - the yoyo(?) and a couple other things in the hoard make me think it is that kind of pack rat.

Also, shame on you for trying to sneak such a load of agricultural materials past Customs! Your nefarious plan almost worked, if not for the sharp eye of the truck driver.

Good luck getting everything taken care of. It's a good thing you have such an astute driver!

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Old 08-07-2007, 08:51 PM   #18
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Thanks I will give them a call

We also had contact from a company called Maybricks with an offer of help. They must be as mad as us to be awake at this hour.. it's almost 3am here

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Contact Steve Vizard, Airframe Assemblies, Isle of Wight. They should be able to get the aluminum part of your trailer back to rights. I can PM you with his phone number, if you can't find it.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:55 PM   #19
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Thank you all for your suggestions... we have asked him to cut away the ripped pieces under the belly pan and see if he can buy a strap to go right around the trailer to hold what is left together....
Don't use a strap all the way around the top - may dent the trailer. Just cut off the bad part and replace later or use duct tape once cleaned out to hold it up for now. Not a major issue for shipping to the UK and you can have it fixed later.

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Old 08-07-2007, 09:01 PM   #20
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Hi Susan
We are so lucky to have him, he has done well over and above of what we could ever expect... I would recommend him to anyone who needs a trailer moving, we would be happy to pass on details by pm for anyone who needs a conscientous hauler for their pride and joy

Imagine our suprise if they hadn't been found until they got here....

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I can't think of the critter right now, but there is a type of rat that lives in the desert that collects stuff - the yoyo(?) and a couple other things in the hoard make me think it is that kind of pack rat.

Also, shame on you for trying to sneak such a load of agricultural materials past Customs! Your nefarious plan almost worked, if not for the sharp eye of the truck driver.

Good luck getting everything taken care of. It's a good thing you have such an astute driver!

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Old 08-07-2007, 09:02 PM   #21
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Good point.. thank you!

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Don't use a strap all the way around the top - may dent the trailer. Just cut off the bad part and replace later or use duct tape once cleaned out to hold it up for now. Not a major issue for shipping to the UK and you can have it fixed later.

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Old 08-07-2007, 09:07 PM   #22
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Thank you... i was wondering if the black bits were seeds or rodent poop.. lol
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Ken is correct, it is from a mesquite tree. Let me know if you need more, my backyard fills up with them every year. Most likely a rodent was storing them in the pan.



I would have the tower keep any panels that have fallen off and remove anything about to fall off. Toss the pods and isulation. Tie and duct tape everything else and keep on trucking.
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Old 08-07-2007, 09:29 PM   #23
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You've gotten a lot of help already, so I'll keep this brief. Plumbers tape, that 3/4 inch wide very flexible metal with a line of holes running in the longitudinal direction, is a more secure attach method than gray tape by itself. Attach it with sheet metal screws to the belly pan and then attach the ends to the lower trailer skin on both sides. Then use the gray tape to seal off the leading edge to avoid scooping air. Good luck.
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Old 08-07-2007, 09:36 PM   #24
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I don't know much about the belly pan, but I concur with Silverback... definitely mesquite bean pods (from trees)...so you don't have a bean plant growing in there...a rodent probably used them to help with a nest.

Good luck with it...TB
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Thanks bob, thats a good tip as well

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You've gotten a lot of help already, so I'll keep this brief. Plumbers tape, that 3/4 inch wide very flexible metal with a line of holes running in the longitudinal direction, is a more secure attach method than gray tape by itself. Attach it with sheet metal screws to the belly pan and then attach the ends to the lower trailer skin on both sides. Then use the gray tape to seal off the leading edge to avoid scooping air. Good luck.
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Thanks for your good wishes and to all that have added comments...
The trailer has now been left in a secluded place to be picked up later when it can be made safe for towing..

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I don't know much about the belly pan, but I concur with Silverback... definitely mesquite bean pods (from trees)...so you don't have a bean plant growing in there...a rodent probably used them to help with a nest.

Good luck with it...TB
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Old 08-09-2007, 01:35 PM   #27
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Angry You have a pack rat infestation

As soon as I saw your pictures I knew what was going on. That's the work of an ambitious band of pack rats. They are extremely distructive. I would be worried about brake lines, anything that is not metal is chewable or suitable as nesting material for these spawn of satan. I have experienced thousands (literally) of dollars of damage as a result of packrats. They eat wiring (found the electrocuted bodies hanging onto wires in my hottub after they'd eaten through the $600 wiring harness and circuit board.) They ate the wiring harness of Bill's old pick-up. They built a nest--in less than 4 hours--in my son's intake manifold on his souped up truck that got sucked into the engine. Their highly concentrated urine will literally etch concrete and dissolve paint.

If that came out of your belly pan, I can only imagine what the inside of the coach looks like. I betting the fluffy stuff came out of one of your gauchos.

You have a very serious problem my friend.
There could be literally hundreds of pounds of assorted trash inside the trailer that is saturated with urine and feces. You need to have somebody put on full protective clothing and, wearing a respirator, clean it all out because I doubt you will be allowed to ship it--nor would you want to-- the way it is. Believe it or not packrats are predatory of deer mice and you sometimes find deer mouse carcasses in pack rat nests. Deer mice carry the deadly Hantavirus. That's why whoever you get to clean it out for you must take hazmat precautions.

Good Luck and keep us posted
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Old 08-10-2007, 08:20 AM   #28
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Belly pan fix

I had a 66 land yacht. The whole under pan started to pull off as I was on the road. Have your driver find a metal shop or home gutter fabrcator. If you have removed the pods have someone attach heavy guage alluminum with self tapping stainless screws. The pannels can then be calked to keep out the weather. Mine lasted for years. Sold the trailer 10 years latter, still no problems! GOOD LUCK
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