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08-30-2006, 04:00 PM
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3 Rivet Member
Lapeer
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HELP! Am I being targeted as a scam????
I have my Argosy on ebay, and the current high bidder has a little icon next to their name that links you to a statement saying"
<LI class=desc>This out of country seller has been taking over accounts. This seller lists Airstream travel trailers, boats, and many other items at well below their value. The bidder is instructed to contact the seller via..."
YIKES! Am I just worrying, or am I being targeted as a scam? Help, please! Maybe they are just bidding, and that shows up every time they bid? Here is the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMESE%3AIT
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08-30-2006, 04:10 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1973 27' Overlander
Southport (Panama City)
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There is a place at ebay to send messages regarding fraud or suspected it is spoof@ebay.com i have sent them emails that i have recieved and they promptly checked them out and notifyed me of there findings....SAM
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08-30-2006, 04:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 27' Overlander
Longmont
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Join Date: May 2005
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yes
it looks that way, since the title of that statement is "airstream scam". Read it again, it is trying to warn you of a known scammer.
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08-30-2006, 04:15 PM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
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You are very likely about to be scammed.
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08-30-2006, 04:37 PM
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Rivet Master
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1956 30' Sovereign of the Road
1963 16' Bambi
Southeastern Area
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I think this eBay user is one of several that has written warnings, reviews, or guides regarding Airstream scams, maybe based on experience with the scammers. Check this link: http://search.reviews.ebay.com/_Trav...tZ50063QQuqtZg. There are several including your bidder that have written similar warnings. I may be wrong, but I think your bidder simply has that tag because they wrote something that eBay considers a "review". But I could be wrong . . .
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08-30-2006, 05:00 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 27' Safari
Carmel-by-the-Sea
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sugarfoot
I think this eBay user is one of several that has written warnings, reviews, or guides regarding Airstream scams, maybe based on experience with the scammers. Check this link: http://search.reviews.ebay.com/_Trav...tZ50063QQuqtZg. There are several including your bidder that have written similar warnings. I may be wrong, but I think your bidder simply has that tag because they wrote something that eBay considers a "review". But I could be wrong . . .
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I believe this to be correct i nterpretation,
Jeff
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08-30-2006, 05:22 PM
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If you have a question about it, you can contact Ebay, and ask them what the tag means, although I think it means the person is possibly involved with the verification of auctions (in a positive way).
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08-30-2006, 05:28 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 16' Bubble
Rose Lodge
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: 1961 26' Overlander
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yeah, that review must normally be attached to something else, like a screen capture or something, to explain the "This seller is ...".
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08-30-2006, 06:40 PM
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Rivet Master
1994 21' Sovereign
Down on the corner...
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I'd definately contact Ebay and question them about this...your potential buyers may get nervous by the warning if they click on it thinking your the scammer and not bid. It looks like it could go either way as a warning....I've never seen that before...hopefully it's all good. Keep us posted what Ebay has to say and good luck with your sale...nice Argosy!
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08-30-2006, 07:49 PM
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I contacted Ebay, and was told that several people have written articles, which are included within Ebay, to help potential fraud victims. The person bidding on your coach is one of those people.
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08-30-2006, 08:45 PM
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Rivet Master
1959 26' Overlander
Putnam
, Connecticut
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How could someone with 6 transactions be a 1000+reviewer. Doesn't add up. I suspect they are attempting to limit bidding and would raise hell with ebay. It sure gives the impression you are a bad seller and will discourage bidding, to his advantage.
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08-30-2006, 09:08 PM
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Old Paint, rolling again.
1973 Argosy 20
Lorain County
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Over59
How could someone with 6 transactions be a 1000+reviewer. Doesn't add up.....
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He's a top 1000 reviewer based on the number or percentage of helpful votes he's received. I bet he bids on the bogus auctions hoping that following bidders will read his "guide" and be clued into the scammers "MO". Anybody following the Ebay Scams thread would be familiar with this overseas jerk. His warehouse is in NJ somewhere but sorry you can't go look at the 8k pristine Bambi before bidding...
Here's the full Airstream Scam Ebay Guide
Steve
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08-31-2006, 08:48 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Lapeer
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Thank-you for all the replies! This is what I did : I contacted ebay's live chat, who referred me to write an email to the ebay security center. This is my email:
I have a travel trailer listed for sale, Item number: 270021991321. This IS my legitimate auction. However, the high bidder at this point, has a icon next to their feedback, that says"Top 1000 reviewer". Then when you click on that link, it takes you to part of his review, which states "This out of country seller has been taking over accounts. This seller lists Airstream travel trailers, boats, and many other items at well below their value. The bidder is instructed to contact the seller via..."
I assume that probably this bidder is a legimate bidder who just happened to have written a review, so it shows up next to his name. However, I am concerned that might deter other bidders, because it makes it sound like I am an out of country seller. I am concerned because it could be taken either way, and as this IS my legimate auction, I don't want it to be associated with a scam! Please advise whether it is just normal for bidders who have written reviews to have it noted next to their name, or if I need to be concerned.
Again, this auction is MY auction, so I don't want someone reporting it as a scam because of this confusing link!!!
thank-you Carrie Welch aka Foundennie
We will see how long it takes ebay to reply. I hope to heaven they don't just skim the email, assume it is a scam auction, and delete it!!!!!! What a stress...thanks for the help on here!
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08-31-2006, 08:52 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Lapeer
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Another note: I would assume that this was just a legimate bidder, except I wrote them an email through ebay's email system 2 days ago, and they have not replied! That made me more worried. I mean, if YOU were bidding on an Airstream/Argosy, wouldn't you check it every day? I guess there could be work issues, computer down, etc. that has prevented them from replying...but that does not help me stop worrying!
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08-31-2006, 09:19 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
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Quote:
Originally Posted by froggies
Another note: I would assume that this was just a legimate bidder, except I wrote them an email through ebay's email system 2 days ago, and they have not replied! That made me more worried. I mean, if YOU were bidding on an Airstream/Argosy, wouldn't you check it every day? I guess there could be work issues, computer down, etc. that has prevented them from replying...but that does not help me stop worrying!
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Maybe not, I have bid on some big items and do not check back until the end of the auction for fear I may up my bid and pay to much. The last 30 seconds is the only importnat time of the auction anyway.
Jim
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08-31-2006, 09:22 AM
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Rivet Master
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1956 30' Sovereign of the Road
1963 16' Bambi
Southeastern Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by froggies
Another note: I would assume that this was just a legimate bidder, except I wrote them an email through ebay's email system 2 days ago, and they have not replied! That made me more worried. I mean, if YOU were bidding on an Airstream/Argosy, wouldn't you check it every day? I guess there could be work issues, computer down, etc. that has prevented them from replying...but that does not help me stop worrying!
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I'm amazed at how many people don't check their email regularly. He may be one of them, and since he's not the one who initiated the email he's not necessarily expecting anything from you about the Argosy. Lots of people including myself may make a bid then not revisit the item until just minutes before the auction ends. But this is a big ticket item. Of course, his behavior wouldn't make me feel any better either. I know you must feel like you're on pins and needles.
Sorry Jim, I just about stepped on your post!
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08-31-2006, 09:57 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1986 34' Excella
Austin
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ebay posting of Airstream
Don't think you are a victim of scam; think you are a victim of poor writing.
I called the "secret" number that ebay provides for heavy users to call customer support and asked about this newbie and the message. The customer rep thinks that he had written another review about a different item and that is carrying over to your item via the icon for top posting.
We considered the fact that any potential bidder reading that post that says "this seller...." may be afraid to bid even if otherwise inclined to do so. He suggested that you might want to cancel this bid and bar him from your auction.
That still will not un-do any damage already done, but it will get rid of this guy. Everyone worries about newbies with almost no history bidding on higher priced ebay items.
Sorry you haven't heard from the ebay chat. That is for me at least, almost worthless. A better way is to call the "secret" resolution number, which is 800-717-EBAY. Use it.
Please let us know and good luck.
Waynon
PS. Sure you don't want to keep this? It looks nice.
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08-31-2006, 11:28 AM
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Rivet Master
1994 21' Sovereign
Down on the corner...
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This is Ebay's Seller help page....if you need to make the decision to cancel your bidders bid here is where you can do so...
http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/manage_bidders_ov.html
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08-31-2006, 03:20 PM
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Old Paint, rolling again.
1973 Argosy 20
Lorain County
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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I believe that your buyer is seriously looking for an Airstream. But you may can his bids to limit the problems he may cause. Check out his recent bid history:
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08-31-2006, 03:53 PM
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3 Rivet Member
Lapeer
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I hate to cancel his bids if he truly is interested....
sfixx....how do I open that picture link?
Waynon: thank you for the secret number! I am working my way up to a big Airstream...one that will fit all ten of my children, husband and me! this one is a little small...
Everyone thanks for your reassurance!
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