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Old 09-07-2005, 10:39 PM   #71
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Why was the US Government's reaction and involvement
in the problems in LA & MISS delayed?.....and.....
who has the right to blame it on the
President of the United States????

A HAND OUT. Politics over duty

This is a post from a fellow over in Merritt Is,
FL, a reporter who's been researching what went on
before the storm hit

"I think all of Nagin's pomp and posturing is
going to bite him hard in the near future as the
lies and distortions of his interviews are coming to

"On Friday night before the storm hit Max
Mayfield of the National Hurricane Center took the
unprecedented action of calling Nagin and Blanco
personally to plead with them to begin MANDATORY
evacuation of New Orleans and they said they'd take
it under consideration. This was after the NOAA buoy
240 miles south had recorded 68' waves before it was

"President Bush spent Friday afternoon and
evening in meetings with his advisors and
administrators drafting all of the paperwork
required for a state to request federal assistance
(and not be in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act
or having to enact the Insurgency Act)."

"Just before midnight Friday evening the
President called Governor Blanco and pleaded with her
to sign the request papers so the federal government
and the military could legally begin mobilization and
call up."

"He was told that they didn't think
it necessary for the federal government to be
involved yet. After the President's final call to
the governor she held meetings with her staff to
discuss the political ramifications of bringing
federal forces. It was decided that if they allowed
federal assistance it would make it look as if they
had failed so it was agreed upon that the feds would
not be invited in."

"Saturday before the storm hit the President
again called Blanco and Nagin requesting they please
sign the papers requesting federal assistance, that
they declare the state an emergency area, and begin
mandatory evacuation."

"After a personal plea from the President,
Mayor Nagin agreed to order an evacuation, but it
would not be a full mandatory evacuation, and the
governor still refused to sign the papers requesting
and authorizing federal action."

"In frustration the President declared the
area a national disasterarea before the state of
Louisiana did so he could legally begin some
advanced preparations. Rumor has it that the
President's legal advisers were looking into the
ramifications of using the insurgency act to bypass
the Constitutional requirement that a state request
federal aid before the federal government can move
into state with troops - but that had not been done
since 1906 and the Constitutionality of it was
called into question to use before the disaster."

"Throw in that over half the federal aid of the
past decade to New Orleans for levee construction,
maintenance, and repair was diverted to fund a
marina and support the gambling ships. "

"Toss in the investigation that will look into why
the emergency preparedness plan submitted to the
federal government for funding and published on the
city's website was never implemented and in fact may
have been bogus for the purpose of gaining
additional federal funding as we now learn that the
organizations identified in the plan were never
contacted or coordinating into any planning - though
the document implies that they were."

"The suffering people of New Orleans need to be
asking some hard questions as do we all, but they
better start with why Blanco refused to even sign
the multi-state mutual aid pack activation documents
until Wednesday which further delayed the legal
deployment of National Guard from adjoining states. "

"Or maybe ask why Nagin keeps harping that the
President should have commandeered 500 Greyhound
busses to help him when according to his own
emergency plan and documents he claimed to have over
500 busses at his disposal to use between the local
school busses and the city transportation busses -
but he never raised a finger to prepare them or
activate them."

"This is a sad time for all of us to see that a
major city has all but been destroyed and thousands
of people have died with hundreds of thousands more
suffering, but it's certainly not a time for people
to be pointing fingers and trying to find a bigger
dog to blame for local corruption and incompetence.
Pray to God for the survivors that they can start
their lives anew as fast as possible and we learn
from all the mistakes to avoid them in the future."

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Old 09-08-2005, 01:39 AM   #72
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Originally Posted by john hd
oddly enough, i was up late last night and saw a rerun of dateline on nbc. it was about hurricane andrew.
it showed the same destruction, the same looting, the same finger pointing, the national guard showing up after 4 days, folks saying "what took you so long".
what i did not see was the national media beating up on then president clinton.
Actually the elder Bush was President when Andrew hit, Clinton was elected that November.

Andrew also hit Louisiana west of New Orleans but it did nothing to wake up officials there.


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i stand corrected!


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