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Old 07-26-2017, 02:35 PM   #29
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Might do better to have a "deadman" switch that would activate beakes and flashers when your hand comes loose. (kidding but only slightly.
If the tow vehicle has an automatic transmission so you only need one foot to drive, the ideal solution would be a foot pedal for the brake controller, positioned conveniently to the left foot. Kind of the way they used to do the high/low headlight switch before they put it on a stalk on the steering columnů
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Old 07-26-2017, 02:35 PM   #30
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I think that a lot of us would be interested in the driver's take on what was happening in this particular case. There's been some speculation about this and that. With no information, we've done what everybody always does. Maybe at some point there will be a follow up. I'm pretty sure right now the poor person is still very shook up.

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Very true. I know what it *looks like* as far as the size of the TV and the trailer etc. But I really don't know for sure either. My heart goes out to them because maybe this is their dream and now it is wrecked. I'm so glad they're ok.
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I do not know what is worse, the avoidable accident or the fool driving and videoing the incident with his hand held phone/camera.
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Old 07-26-2017, 03:14 PM   #32
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I do not know what is worse, the avoidable accident or the fool driving and videoing the incident with his hand held phone/camera.
Good point--video from a dash camera--makes sense. Handheld video--against the law in many states, assuming a cell phone. This does look handheld.
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Old 07-26-2017, 03:40 PM   #33
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Yes, there are a lot of other observations one could make.
As the OP stated there are lot of observations one can make. From speed to texting to everything else in between. So for me the take away from all of this is to drive at a speed safe for the conditions and just maybe at or just under the speed limit. I know this sounds like apple pie and motherhood but I often have to remind myself to slow down as the goal is to get there safely.

Be safe out there and enjoy the journey.
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Traveling, as a friend of mine once said, "...for apple pie and motherhood, and against sin.." is probably the best bet. (Good old boy, Mr. J. J. Adkins--I miss that Southern gentleman!)
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Old 07-26-2017, 04:15 PM   #35
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It *would* be interesting to actually know (as opposed to guess .... as I have done) the speed when the sway set in. I'm not interested enough in the answer to drive over and measure the distances involved to compute the answer though ....

Of course, with that data you still only have part of the answer. The hitch, the trailer, and the setup of the TV all got into the act at some level.

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Old 07-26-2017, 04:23 PM   #36
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Thanks for the heads up:

http://www.insideedition.com/headlin...-hitch-them-to

The driver says a tire blew according to the voice-over. Most of the remaining footage is other pap and pablum drama reportage IMO.
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The driver says a tire blew according to the voice-over. Most of the remaining footage is other pap and pablum drama reportage IMO.
I'm sure a tire did blow on the driver's side of the trailer as it started to tip over (around the 15-second mark). But methinks he has cause and effect mixed up. The rollover caused the blowout, not the blowout cause the rollover. Standard disclaimer #3 applies: the opinions expressed in this post do not necessarily reflect the opinions of management.
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Old 07-26-2017, 04:53 PM   #38
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I think you can see all the tires on the TV *after* things come to a stop. They all seem to be intact. Before the roll over, the trailer tires come into view as things swing. None of them seem to be blown. I agree that *after* the roll over the trailer tires are indeed a mess.

Given the precision of a lot of TV reporting, the driver may have said something very different than what the voice over reports. Certainly my local station tangled things up quite a bit yesterday.

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If that really was cell phone video the phone had to have been in some type of mount, the video is too steady to be hand held. Also the video starts before any swaying really happens which indicates the phone was already filming, no one could grab a phone that fast and start recording. Another possibility is that is really was a dash cam and after stopping the driver pulled it off it's mount to save the video before it got lost or recorded over. My dash cam has a button to push in order to prevent an important event from getting over-written, it saves the last clip in a special folder.
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There is too much camera motion IMO for it to be a dash cam locked to the dash. Not much motion, but just enough to have been hand-held, probably with his hand resting on the wheel or dash. The newer phones have some stabilization software that minimizes the motion, but at some points the image rocks a bit "off level" compared to the rest of the video.

It is subtle, but the camera sweeps right/left and up/down quite a few times -- I just watched again -- right from the beginning. Highly likely it was hand-held IMO.
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If that really was cell phone video the phone had to have been in some type of mount, the video is too steady to be hand held. Also the video starts before any swaying really happens which indicates the phone was already filming, no one could grab a phone that fast and start recording. Another possibility is that is really was a dash cam and after stopping the driver pulled it off it's mount to save the video before it got lost or recorded over. My dash cam has a button to push in order to prevent an important event from getting over-written, it saves the last clip in a special folder.
Negative on mount, sir. I actually commented on the video that was posted to Facebook ... it's a handheld (likely a phone) because at the end of the video, which is clearly in his hand, the camera view changes gradually from the road, through his dash, steering wheel, down to his lap. He was just stabilizing his hand on the steering wheel or dashboard. Moreover, my observation on FB when I saw the video was that he had the camera at the ready, filming, before the tragic sway unfolded. This implies to me that he was either driving erratically or was experiencing sway events that led to the following vehicle to start recording what he thought was about to unfold... We obviously don't know speed, wind, or anything else. I observed that he drifted to the right some, then corrected left (about the time the vehicle passed him on his left)... I think it was an over-correction that set the catastrophic oscillations in play. Just my humble opinion...
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There is mention in some of the comments on one of the sites that the phone video started after the trailer moved from the left lane over to the right. There is not much more than that as to why the recording started.

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