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Old 09-26-2005, 08:49 AM   #29
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We held steady after an initial $.10 per gallon rise on Thurday. Still sitting at $2.67 nearby my house. The pipeline that feeds metro STL from Houston was shut down due to a lack of workers at the Houston refinery who monitor that line. I've read that it will be pretty much up to full capacity by Wednesday. I'm really curious about the restraint also. I know the state attorney general is looking into the pricing that followed Katrina.

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Old 09-26-2005, 10:57 AM   #30
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I'm concerned that the refineries in Beaumont and Port Arthur were originally reported (by the media) to have sustained little apparent damage, but the companies (like Valero) report major damage and will be 2-4 weeks to get back running.

I hope this isn't another Enron, with engineered downtime and artificially reduced capacity being used to get us acclimated to higher gas prices.
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Old 09-26-2005, 02:22 PM   #31
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Firkins, Pints & Hissed as a newt...

I would'nt say My workmate Jon is a heavy drinker, He's heavy, yet has a heart of gold, & a great debater... OK...We were on abt the price of GAS... So Jon, Yr disgusted at the price We have 2 pay for our PETROL... but Jon, without it, U can't do the following..., Get 2 work, Take Yr misus 2 the bingo, take Yr Mother-in-Law HOME lone get Her 2 Yr home in the first place...LOL... U can't do this or that, it's endless Jon, & U kn it...
But...YES there has always gotta B a BUT... U jus said U had 8 pints of BEER on Saturday night...@ 2.10 a pint, well Jon, 'ole bean, that works out at 16.80...a GALLON... & U MOAN at the price of PETROL..., I KN Yr car drinks gas, but it Don't pee it up the kerb side..., It's the 1st time Jon has bn speechless for a long, long time.... Petrol is almost 4 a GALLON... I rest My case... ...Chris.....
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Old 09-26-2005, 02:48 PM   #32
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I hope this isn't another Enron, with engineered downtime and artificially reduced capacity being used to get us acclimated to higher gas prices.
Well $3 a gallon seemed to be the break point for most drivers in the Missouri area. Tourist venues in the state reported a significant downturn over the Labor Day weekend. I really do believe that the fall off on prices was directly attributed to lower demand. I didn't plan a trip that weekend, but if I had and depending upon the travel destination, an $.80 premium per gallon over the pre Katrina price may have given me second thoughts.

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Old 09-26-2005, 03:06 PM   #33
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I don't know quite where my breakpoint is but, just cancelled a trip to the sugar creek rally in ohio.

$325 for gas, $120 rally fee, + misc. would wipe out a $500 bill.

Maybe I will go next fall.

Plan to do the color season though in the smokies.
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Old 09-27-2005, 07:40 AM   #34
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Old 09-27-2005, 08:02 AM   #35
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Jack, you hit the nail right on the head. The reduced demand, though small, was according to the news folks was a direct result of $3/gal. I know that it has impacted some of our plans, though it was not the main or only motivation for why we abandonded a number of other trips over the summer.

The gas prices where I buy stayed the same as when I posted a few days ago, but I haven't taken a peek yet today. I hope that we are able to get below $2/gallon some day, but I doubt that it will happen until some heads roll for price fixing. It's just so hard for me to understand how oil companies are making record profits, most states (not all) won't suspend or reduce the gas taxes all while the cost is squarely on the average persons back at nearly $3/gallon. I guess if it wasn't gas, it'd be something else.
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Old 09-27-2005, 08:46 AM   #36
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We went up $.15 a gallon yesterday so we are standing at $2.79 for reg. Supposedly prices will be climbing through Columbus Day according to govt. officials. Hang on to your pocketbook!

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Old 09-27-2005, 09:03 AM   #37
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OK, I even knew that a hogshead was 52 barrels, but never heard of a firkin before. Learn something new every day here?
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OK, I even knew that a hogshead was 52 barrels, but never heard of a firkin before. Learn something new every day here?
Hehe. .

A firkin is 9 gallons, and a hogshead is 63 gallons.
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I believe the Oil Co's keep 1 keg for every week of the year, & when they get to the last one, they work out jus how much they managed 2 rip us off each week by, say keg 1, made $40, keg 2 made $63, & so on, then they crack the Champagne... & laugh at us all the way to the bank, well down the fone-line, 'cos they R to idle to go to the bank....
We have a VAT ( Value added tax ) system over here, so when U buy Yr NEW Vehicle, U have 2 pay TAX on it, so the tax is paid, then how 4 & whatever reason that vehicle ends up in the wreckers it becomes a donor... so say, Me goes along, buys a door mirror, at 15, + 17% vat, BUT I refuse 2 pay vat on used parts, simply 'cos the tax has ALREADY been paid, NOW if I scrap a vehicle at an aproved wreckers, I get 25 upwards 4 the vehicle, dependin on what kind etc:, ONLY if I REMOVE the TYRES...IF I don't do that, they will ASK Me for 20, So I'm outta pocket, simply 'cos it is very expecive 2 get rid of spent tyres, they have 2b controlled By the local council, & cost a fortune 2 dispose of...so when I drive along, I pick up dumped tyres, ONLY if I can move them on, that way the countryside stays cleaner, My Buyer is happy, & I make a few 's...the ones I can't sell I give away FREE 2 the purchaser who buys the newly painted rims...LOL... ...Chris.....
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Old 09-27-2005, 02:10 PM   #40
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Gas has been holding steady at around $2.89 for the last week in Phoenix, it was over $3.00 a few weeks ago.
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Gas has been holding steady in a range from $2.85 - $2.99 per gallon in South Miami Beach. We hit the road tommorrow, so it should vary from state to state. If there's anything radically different, I'll post it.

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Old 09-29-2005, 09:16 AM   #42
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Well we hit $2.89 on Tuesday. Went to $2.99 yesterday 9/28.

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