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Old 08-13-2006, 10:30 AM   #253
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Watched diesel go from $3.39 to $3.69 in the space of 2 HOURS at a Shell station in Spokane the other day!!! I guess they got the call to up the price. I paid $2.22 the same day to fill up the Duramax van...go figure.

I keep wondering why by backside hurts........

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Old 08-13-2006, 11:07 AM   #254
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There should be no confusion after ULSD comes out, at all..
yea right.

i'm all for ulsd, would have liked it 5 years ago...

the date may be set...but even that is a soft figure.

gradual phase in? what to do to the tanks and lines? sulfur may fluctuate during this time? so may the other lubricity additives, which refinery is gonna send fuel where? and so on...

pretending this is a simply a 'turn the switch' thing...is simplistic.

the confusions referred to in my post...apply to someone considering buying a diesel...were related to the HUMAN making buying decisions...

get one?
old or new?
old technology or new?
where can i go now with it?
can't go to mexico with ultra low new diesel yet...

will i need lubricaton additives...and is that for an old or new diesel?

warranty issues if i add a little biod..what percentage...
what if i get some 300ppm diesel by mistake?
how much before i'm screwed..
can i blend a little old fuel with new...till by home tank is empty?

i realize there are petrol websites with faqs but i've been reading them...and the answers sometimes change for a given question!!!

how will maintenance costs change? what about particulate filters...

does the change apply to all diesels? every single one?


that is just a short list of the confusing issues intelligent folks may ponder.

prices are likely to be wildly fluctuating on the diesel side as well and until this is all worked out....1-2 years.

so the confused includes "should i buy a diesel with these crazy prices?"

i would buy again now no question...

but my statement that 'a confusing time' is coming...stands.

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Old 08-13-2006, 11:28 AM   #255
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The manual of my 2006 Durmax states they do allow BioD up to 20% IIRC. The problem so far is not would I burn it, but where can I get it as I'd have to drive almost an hour to get to a station that sells BioD. Oh, and they happen to make it there too, in large volume. It seems that farmers are buying it in bulk, but no one is buying it for the fuel stations. While it was interesting that Pres. Bush visited this refinery just last year, that BioD is not getting much press, though I have to say, neither is ULSD.

And to stick with the thread - Diesal was $2.89 ish yesterday, while regular gas was $2.78.
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Old 08-13-2006, 12:01 PM   #256
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2air’ – Thanks for illustrating why it’s a confusing time to buy a new tow vehicle…
especially for a newbie…

I took your advice and started a new thread "Gas vs. Diesel" in Towing section:
http://www.airforums.com/forum...rld-25248.html



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Old 08-13-2006, 12:14 PM   #257
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Diesel is around $3.05 here. Regular varies $2.99 to $3.16 at the rip off freeway stations.

I am paying $3.25 for biodiesel locally. I blend with dino diesel. Our is made in Lakeland, Florida, by a subsidy of World Energy.

Propane is running around $3-$4.10 for home delivery and RV fillups. 30# tanks $20-23. I still get mine at FlyingJ for under $2.
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Old 08-13-2006, 02:59 PM   #258
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If you think we are concerned about fuel prices, I found this site while roaming around the Hybrid crowd:

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Old 08-19-2006, 12:44 PM   #259
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Paid $2.69 for ethanol in Iowa yesterday. I can't get over how sad it is that I just bragged about $2.69!!!
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Old 08-19-2006, 12:48 PM   #260
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Most of the week regular unleaded has been $ 3.09 at the Chevron down the street. Seems like a decent price when compared to other states, as California pricing is usually through the roof.
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Old 08-19-2006, 12:51 PM   #261
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Gas has continued to drop here in the STL area. QT is low at $2.67. Diesel is slightly over $3.00.

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I just filled up diesel yesterday at Phillips 66 in Ashland at 3.059 only to see it drop to 2.959 about 30 minutes later when I drove back by That was after I had waited several days thinking it would drop, but not seeing it happen! Regular here is also 2.69. Who'da ever thunk that these "lower" prices would elicit some enthusiasm???? ~G
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Gas has also dropped north of the border,at least in my area.Last week $1.22 a litre,this week $1.12 a litre.Every little bit helps.
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I just filled up diesel yesterday at Phillips 66 in Ashland at 3.059 only to see it drop to 2.959 about 30 minutes later when I drove back by That was after I had waited several days thinking it would drop, but not seeing it happen! Regular here is also 2.69. Who'da ever thunk that these "lower" prices would elicit some enthusiasm???? ~G
I know, I was delighted to see $2.71 at the Race Trac this morning. However, I still go to the Chevron. Trust name brands better because of what a corporate Race Trac friend of mine told me a few years back.
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I was told that $2.63 for gas was available in Glouster, VA over the weekend! Glouster is a water-side town with lots of boaters and 'resorts'. Richmond, VA I have seen $2.69 ish. I'll have to get diesal by the end of the week, time to start shopping for it now?
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