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Old 02-01-2006, 09:12 PM   #15
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Heard great things about Scientific Anglers, but don't own any yet. I hear their line is great and hear great things about their flies.
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Old 02-01-2006, 10:39 PM   #16
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Great advise all around. I can tell you, as others have, but mostly through experience, get out there. You can watch videos and read books but experience is always the best teacher. I am on the board of directors of the flycasting club 'azflycaster' speaks of, in fact we met there. As he mentioned, a local club is an excellent way of learning the ropes. Lots of kind folks eager to share their knowledge and experience and maybe a favorite fishing hole or two.

St. Croix makes a great rod for the price. I have a 9 foot, 4 weight that feels like an extension of my arm after a short time on the water. A local fly shop is a great place to cast a number of different rods, all different weights, lengths and actions. Find one that speaks to you and suits your casting style. You'll develop one soon enough.

As for a bamboo rod, I own and collect bamboo rods. For me, I like the way they cast, and am a sucker for something old, put together by a skilled craftsman and enjoy their uniqueness. Just plain sexy. Not the type of rod to learn to cast with necessarily besides not for the beginner's pocketbook either.

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Old 02-01-2006, 11:32 PM   #17
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General,
Lots of good info in the other post, however the only thing not metioned is waders and wadding boots. Sounds like a minor thing...but after spending many years fishing in some cold water in Alaska...I will tell you it will not matter what gear you have if you are cold and wet! A good pair of wadding boots and wadders will last a long time and will make the sport more enjoyable.

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Old 02-02-2006, 07:01 AM   #18
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As I have mentioned before I am hoping to spend April on the road recovering from wraping up school (yeah Im a geezer of a student at 39 I know). The plan is to go out to the New Mexico area if gas prices hold, or down to TN/NC if prices climb. I plan on doing lots of photography of course, but I also have been giving thought to taking up fly fishing.

So....... Can you fly fishers offer up some advice on what equipment I should be looking at getting (not top of the line but not something I will regret getting in 6 months). Also good places to go would be appreciated. As a final note, budget is a significant issue for me under current circumstances, so indulgences like a $500 half day Orvis seminar isnt in the cards... Idealy, the overall cost of equipment needs to be held in the neighborhood of $250 or so if possible. Any other advice or insights would be welcome as well. Thanks in advance
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Vince is correct. It's all in the presentation. You can get started for under $500 easily. Pick up a "Starter Kit" from Cabela's, Orvis or the like. You can get a rod and reel combo for under $200. Get out on a lawn, tie a piece of colorful yarn on the end of your weight forward line (so you can see where you're throwing your line) and practice your throw. Go to a park somewhere i.e. museum that has a reflecting pond, preferably one that is raised a little above grade and practice picking your line up off the water and throwing it. You'll find the water acts against the line with friction as you lift the line slowly entering your back cast (take the yarn off for this one). The elevated pool will simulate standing in water since you will be a bit lowere and on the sidewalk. Find some water with any panfish or the like and just get out there and practice. The fish will let you know how you're doing. A good video will help but don't overdo the studies. "Less is more" sometimes. Have fun. There's nothing quite like fooling a good fish with an imitation bug I guarantee.
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Old 02-02-2006, 08:33 AM   #19
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Flyfisher mentioned the San Juan up in NE New Mexico. I'd add a couple of places:

1. Rio Grande at the Wild Rives Rec Area. You hike down to the river. It's probably about a mile down one of the trails, but the fishing is supposed to be very good. You can camp at the rec area.

http://www.nm.blm.gov/tafo/rafting/r...ld_rivers.html

2. Valle Vidal. Assuming the bastards don't start mining it, the Valle Vidal is not only gorgeous, but full of fish in the stream. It's remote. Some folks have pulled rigs in, but, well, it's a call, depending on your willingness. There are camping opportunities outside the area, too.

http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/carson/html_...lle_vidal.html

3. Cimarron Canyon State Park, upper area. It's good, but sometimes crowded. Camping available all around.

http://www.emnrd.state.nm.us/nmparks...n/cimarron.htm

There are also lots of other areas to fish. Might want to check out some of the local fishing sites. We've got a few info links on our site:

http://www.aardvarkrv.com/monteverde...%20fishing.htm


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Lynn mentioned the Rio Grande and while I've never entered the canyon, friends tell me it's an excellent place to flyfish. You might want to try the Chama River in the north. The largest German Brown I ever caught, 24", was landed just below El Vado dam throwing to the cliff side and drifiting downstream. If you can do a little research, you might find out who owns the ranch where the Chama crosses into New Mexico from Colorado. Dick and Vimmie Ray owned it many years ago and they're a delightful couple. Fishing that "Skinny Water" downstream was wonderful! If you're lucky enough to get a 'permit', take a day pack and spend the entire day on the stream. Watch for black bears in this area. Good luck!
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I KNEW I would get good info here

Lots of good advice and feed back folks, thanks! If I go ahead with this it will be a “learn on the fly” (hehe) process for sure. The San Jan sounds like a must do. Lynn, being the local expert in the north area, would the areas you recommended be nice in April, snow gone and all that sort of thing?
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Lynn, being the local expert in the north area, would the areas you recommended be nice in April, snow gone and all that sort of thing?
Welll, basically it's a matter of avoiding the areas that are higher in altutide. Here in Angel Fire, for example, April is pretty much the usual thing for the higher altitude Rocky Mountains:: Snow, rain, melt, mud, wind.

What I'd suggest for April, then, would be either the Rio Grande or the San Juan, neither of which is on a mountain top. Oh, and earlier I forgot to mention the Orilla Verde Recreation Area, located on the Rio Grande between Taos and Espanola. You can check the BLM site at http://www.nm.blm.gov/ for details.


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As I have mentioned before I am hoping to spend April on the road recovering from wraping up school (yeah Im a geezer of a student at 39 I know). The plan is to go out to the New Mexico area if gas prices hold, or down to TN/NC if prices climb. I plan on doing lots of photography of course, but I also have been giving thought to taking up fly fishing.

So....... Can you fly fishers offer up some advice on what equipment I should be looking at getting (not top of the line but not something I will regret getting in 6 months). Also good places to go would be appreciated. As a final note, budget is a significant issue for me under current circumstances, so indulgences like a $500 half day Orvis seminar isnt in the cards... Idealy, the overall cost of equipment needs to be held in the neighborhood of $250 or so if possible. Any other advice or insights would be welcome as well. Thanks in advance
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Sounds like you have a plan.
I've fished the San Juan since the 1960's, it has great fishing and now has great crowds also. April would be a good month to fish it, summer/holiday crowds are horrible.
I would advise picking up any equipment in person, try it before buying.
One of my faoirite rods is a 6' Phillipson fiberglass #2 wt that I picked up at Gart Bros in Denver on sale for just $5.00. It's great for small streams and it landed a 7 lb rainbow on the San Juan. It won't handle ultra-long casts but it's very light just fun to use.
Pick whats comfortable for you, then learn to use it. If you're like most of us you will end up with several rods and reels.
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The San Juan doesn't require long, elegant casts. That's one of reasons its a great place for those with less experience with casting. The flow rates vary depending on time of year and recent weather conditions, most of the time it is between ankle and knee deep. Take a wading staff and waders with studs if you plan on going into the high current areas. Some of those rocks in the north channels seem to be like bowing balls covered with snot (sorry so graphic, but its true). As a new wader, may want to stay out of those areas. Plenty of very fishable water everywhere else. In fact, you'll see so many fish and they'll be right under your feet waiting for you to kick up the little bugs in the mud so they can feed on them. In fact, this has been given the terminology of "the San Juan Shuffle" and is highly discouraged.

Talk to the guys in the local shops, Abe's and Float n Fish, they'll stear you correctly. Enjoy and remember - flyfishing is supposed to be relaxing and contemplative. No getting stressed out.

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Good camping around the San Juan?

Any particularly good camping in the area, or those to avoid? I lean toward boondocking setups over more established sites.
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Abe's Motel and Fly Shop has camping but it is really just a gravel parking lot with electricity. There is a campground above the San Juan at Navajo Reservoir that I hear is really nice. There is also a primitive campground along the northside of the Juan but I've only seen it from the opposite shore while fishing, so I might have been distracted.

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http://www.emnrd.state.nm.us/nmparks/2003WEEKLY.htm

There are two State Parks on the San Juan, one on the river at Cottonwood Campground, it's in a huge grove of Cottonwood trees, it has some sites with water and elec, the other is across the dam with views of the lake. both are very nice..The elevation is about 6,000 ft so the trees will be bare until later in the year.
Abes store also has rv sites.
There is also another rv place on the Bloomfield hiway about 1mile from the community of Navajo Dam it on the river but I don't think they have any water or elec.
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You can find listings of all of the private and public campgrounds in the state at the
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