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Old 10-31-2013, 03:12 AM   #43
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Old 10-31-2013, 06:46 AM   #44
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You said your not talking about a doomsday situation, but you call it a 'bug out bag'. Most of our friends who are preppers call it this. So I also assumed you were referencing a doomsday like situation.

In western NC this is apparently a really popular concept. As farmers we put up food and have a big stocked freezer and have well water and septic and plan for solar. But not because we expect zombies or some financial or energy collapse. I still think its funny preppers are 'prepped' for 2 Weeks or a month... But what then? Living sustainably would help you get a lot further...for a lot longer.

We experienced 9/11 in NYC and a 3 day blackout in NYC in 2003. After 9/11 most offices had a kit with some basics for each desk - a kit with a water bottle, Mylar blanket , a few other things. ( And women stopped wearing heels and wore sneakers or shoes and changed at work. )

I agree , having some bottled water Stored, batteries , flash lights , first aid kit is common sense. We have first aid in every trailer and carry extra water. We don't have a 'bug out bag' because unless there's a fire or nuclear fallout we plan to stay put.
As this is a forum for folks with trailers or motorhomes, being caught in a natural disaster while away from home is a possibility for all of us, was my thought.

Because we're in tornado country, and our house is on a slab, leaving for underground shelter if in the path is also a possibility.

Looking at the tornadic disasters that have occurred just in the last decade, with towns flattened and everything lost, we personally could stand to be a little more prepared for such events. We currently are not. Maybe in the back of our minds we have thought it could never happen to us.

Maybe better to call it a "ditch kit"? Because you have to ditch your residence, be that stick house or RV?

If we were hit by a major blizzard or ice storm here, and lost power for days, we would not only survive, but likely be quite comfortable. We have a woodstove, and I'm a natural prepper. We'd be caring for others, who had no heat.

It will be different for everybody, I'm thinkin', and we have gotten lots of great suggestions here.

We are going to have a carefully stocked bag by the first of the year, is our plan.

Thanks for all the input......such great minds and wealth of experiences out there.


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Old 10-31-2013, 06:49 AM   #45
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If you pay attention the cell phones will be one of the first things working after a disaster. I work for a disaster relief company and that is what we do. We are on 12 notice when a hurricane is forecast to make landfall and if power goes down we haul generators to the cell phone sites so all of you can have your smart phones up and running very quickly.
That's good to know!

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Old 10-31-2013, 06:52 AM   #46
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First aid, preferably a wilderness First Aid course, as these are designed for people in places where there are no nearby paramedics. (BTW, aspirin really is supposed to be beneficial in case of a heart attack.)
Anyone who lives in an area that's subject to natural disasters (and who doesn't) ought to at least take a Red Cross first aid course at least once in their lives. I did, but it has been a lot of years. More recently, after foot surgery gone horribly wrong, I got on-the-job training in wound care from a home care nurse while I had open wounds that couldn't be stitched closed until the MRSA infection cleared up. Even learned a few things the Red Cross doesn't cover.

And you should probably get a "marine trauma" first aid kit. I recommend the "marine trauma" kits because the contents are chosen based on the assumption that users are at least 24 hours from a hospital— which may well be the case during or after a natural disaster— and the kits concentrate on wound treatment rather than illness treatment. West Marine sells one (WEST MARINE 5.0 Medical Kit at West Marine) that's affordable but still reasonably comprehensive. This is the one I have, and I recommend it for most Airstreamers (especially boondockers) as well as people stocking a bug-out kit or hunker-down kit.

There are bigger, more complete, and more expensive kits out there (Adventure Medical has several to choose from), but they'd be overkill for my situation. No one kit is perfect for everybody, though, so you will need to supplement whatever kit you buy with other items. I supplement my West Marine kit with strong OTC painkillers, Pepto, Benadryl, and the like, and of course Neosporin ointment, Oragel (nothing hurts quite like a toothache!), hydrogen peroxide, and hydrocortisone spray.

There are also smaller first aid kits out there, designed for self-treatment when a trip to the hospital is overkill (heavy on Band-Aids in all sizes), not for when a trip to the hospital isn't even possible right away. I don't really recommend such first aid kits for inclusion in a bug-out or hunker-down kit, except as a supplement to a marine trauma kit.
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Old 11-01-2013, 01:47 PM   #47
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Good advice, Protagonist. A lot of pharmacy first-aid kits are fine for minor cuts and abrasions, but not much else.

One thing recommended in the wilderness first aid course I took (now a few years ago, as well) was an epi-pen in case of severe bee/wasp stings. They are expensive, but can be life-saving. We also travel & camp with several of those emergency foil blankets plus a wool blanket in the back of the truck, because staying warm is a big issue in the event of trauma/shock or a cold weather emergency (like getting stranded on the freeway in a blizzard.)

BTW, I have found grapefruit seed extract (available at health food stores) more effective than Maalox, Pepto, and their kin for G-I ailments.
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Old 11-06-2013, 02:39 PM   #48
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I just ordered one of these (and a couple of other things ) from ebags, which can lay on the top of the fresh water tank in the Interstate. Baggallini, zip-out shopping tote, ripstop nylon, water resistant, etc. 17" x 17", on sale for $19.99. Love baggallini.

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This arrived today, and is absolutely perfect for its chosen purpose, in my estimation. Very sturdy handles, fabric and double zipper, and just the right size for us.

Our adult children have paid very close attention to our bug-out bag musings....even the one who teased about preparing for the apocalypse (not) is now talking of bulking up their basement emergency area for his family of five.

We are ziploc-bagging or vacuum sealing the contents, are also going to add a large-ish, brightly colored tag to the handle.


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Old 11-07-2013, 03:10 PM   #49
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We found one of these at a marina store this past trip, love it and have purchased another for our bug-out bag.

Under $10, uses 3AAA batteries and you could seriously signal a search party or land planes with this item.....it is that bright.

About the size of a large highlighter/magic marker.

Nebo Larry Light 8 Led Work light with Magnetic clip


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Old 11-07-2013, 03:24 PM   #50
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Dang, wish they sold that here in Canada, looks really neet!

That type of item doubles in price because of the shipping and "handling" costs these days.
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Old 11-07-2013, 03:43 PM   #51
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We got the recent one off Amazon.com, where you can get free shipping with a certain $ amount order.

Or, if adult son has an account with free shipping that works, too.



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Old 11-09-2013, 08:15 AM   #52
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We are ready.

Our final list:

Hand charger for cell phone
Water purification tablets
Katydyn collapsible 1-quart water bottle
Multi-tool
Pocket knife
First Aid kit
Small Flashlight/extra batteries
100-hour emergency candles (2)
Mylar emergency blankets
Waterproof Match Container/matches
Folding knife/spoon/forks
Collapsible bowls
The 2-oz Backpacker Problem Solving Manual
Baby Wipes
Collapsible toothbrushes/small toothpaste
Hand Sanitizer
Spare Eyeglasses/Contact Lenses/Contacts cleaner/wetting solution
Small bag travel size toiletries
Clif Bars
Trail Mix
Dog Food
Plastic bags
A little $

To grab if we have to leaven our stick house or the Interstate:

Meds


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Food for thought, rather than leaving cash in your kit, you might want to get an equivalent amount of traveler's checks. Thanks to debit cards you don't see traveler's checks very often anymore, but American Express still sells them. And it's insured money. If you lose them, you can get the money back. Unlike cash.

However, make sure your kit includes at least one roll of quarters, for vending machines, laundromats, etc.
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Food for thought, rather than leaving cash in your kit, you might want to get an equivalent amount of traveler's checks. Thanks to debit cards you don't see traveler's checks very often anymore, but American Express still sells them. And it's insured money. If you lose them, you can get the money back. Unlike cash.

However, make sure your kit includes at least one roll of quarters, for vending machines, laundromats, etc.
Good ideas, Protag.

Had not at all thought about quarters. We have a quarter depository in the Interstate, for laundry and car washes.

Hate going into those places and finding the change machines not working.


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Food for thought, rather than leaving cash in your kit, you might want to get an equivalent amount of traveler's checks. Thanks to debit cards you don't see traveler's checks very often anymore, but American Express still sells them. And it's insured money. If you lose them, you can get the money back. Unlike cash.

However, make sure your kit includes at least one roll of quarters, for vending machines, laundromats, etc.
Maybe just make sure ahead of time that places where you are likely to shop still take them. With ATMs being so common, they've become a thing of the past for a lot of merchants. But I would second bringing extra cash and quarters, because ATMs could be down in a power outage or be emptied out.
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We have actually come across places that do not take traveler's checks, period.

My thought about these, primarily, is that there could be difficulty cashing them in one's own area during massive power outages and destruction of infrastructure. I recall that huge ice storm in Missouri, etc, several years ago, where some areas remained without power for weeks.

They would be helpful, though, if one were leaving the area, such as evacuating for a hurricane.

Cash might be the best local medium of exchange.

BTW, cash is not and will not be kept inside our bug-out bag. It has its own secret spot.


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