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Old 12-18-2015, 12:31 PM   #15
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Reminded me of the Earth Sheltered houses that were in vogue in the '70s. A couple were built in a hollow nearby, interesting design.

A quick search of Mother Earth News brought up this link.
Earth Sheltered Homes: Comfortable, Affordable and Energy Efficient - Green Homes - MOTHER EARTH NEWS

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I knew some people years ago who had an earth sheltered home....built into a hill, one exposed wall that was all stone/masonry and Windows, then a massive stone fireplace inside that provided all the heat they needed.

I loved it on sight, and wanted it for my own. He was a contractor, I believe, and did most of the work himself. Also had a wife, kids, etc.

The natural insulation of dirt is appealing, something the Anasazi knew 1000 years ago. (Thank you, Ray.)


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Old 12-18-2015, 04:12 PM   #16
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The guy who pioneered this building technique started with sand bag igloos as part of doing research for NASA. Later a quonset hut shape evolved and the Hesperia CA public library was built in that style. He had to undergo a lot to get them building code approved. His name was Nadir Khalili. I met Nadir in 1993. He told me he was an architect and builder from Persia. Web site here.
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Old 12-18-2015, 04:43 PM   #17
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Wow, that's an interesting bit of information.

Thanks for sharing.


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I live in an earthblock home. It is solar passive with 20" thick double walls. Very efficient, but not necessarily inexpensive to build. This guy knows his stuff. How to Build a Home With Earth Blocks (CEBs)
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The guy who pioneered this building technique started with sand bag igloos as part of doing research for NASA. Later a quonset hut shape evolved and the Hesperia CA public library was built in that style. He had to undergo a lot to get them building code approved. His name was Nadir Khalili. I met Nadir in 1993. He told me he was an architect and builder from Persia. Web site here.
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Gee, that's the same guy as mentioned in the OP. Except the original guy was from Iran, not Persia.

Wait - - - Iran IS Persia.
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A lot of Iranians in my neighbourhood still refer to home as Persia.
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Old 12-18-2015, 06:14 PM   #21
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I built several ICF houses and currently live in the last one. I think wood frame is the way to go, even a double wall, R40 exterior wood frame wall will cost a fraction of these non conventional assemblies.

One thing is for sure, aluminum framed, aluminum clad walls are about as worse performing as you can get, why do you think 30'ers need 2 ACs and 50 amps to power them...
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The most organic or natural way to build is to use the materials at hand. In Persia - dirt, in Minnesota - logs, in Nebraska - sod, in Arizona - rocks, in Los Angeles - Home Depot.
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The house I grew up in was built with adobe. It was built in 1936, and as far as I know is still standing and in good condition.
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Gee, that's the same guy as mentioned in the OP. Except the original guy was from Iran, not Persia.



Wait - - - Iran IS Persia.

Curious I asked Nadir why he said Persia. Nadir said because Persia is NOT Iran - Persia is Persia.
It's a common mistake similar to people from the USA calling themselves "americans" when "america" stretches from Canada to Chile.
I spent a couple of years living in SW Asia before meeting Nadir, so I understood.
His "earthbag" technique has been adopted by many, but his buildings were the real deal. CalEarth is located in the Mojave. It was July when I first went there, I'd been living in the Mojave for a year then. It was about 130F a couple feet above the ground. Inside a single layer brick dome it was about 90F.
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If I could......I would build a subterranean something in my back yard, similar to the old root cellars/storm shelters.

I would store things in there, it would also be a place of shelter in the event an F3 or greater tornado came thru here, at which time one is only safe underground. I do have a key to my son's, a mere mile away, and they have a basement, but still....

As I recall, the water table here is too high for such a thing, which is why I am on a slab.

I have always wanted an earth sheltered dugout.....cool in summer, protected from the elements in winter, and a storm shelter ....all things are not meant to be.


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