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Old 04-20-2016, 09:58 AM   #71
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That is the best advice so far. It makes for a more peaceful, less stress method of getting there.
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That is the best advice so far. It makes for a more peaceful, less stress method of getting there.


Amen. Great post.
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Old 04-24-2016, 11:00 AM   #73
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There has been a lot of discussion on this thread about how riding a motorcycle makes you a better defensive driver. Normally I'd agree.

But just this morning in the New Orleans metro area, I had an encounter— thankfully only a near miss— that reminded me that, for every safe and responsible motorcyclist, there's another who believes that his beloved ride is fueled by pure testosterone. I swear, these guys really need one of Julius Caesar's slaves riding pillion, screaming over and over into his ear, "Remember, thou art mortal!"
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Whenever I hear the term "near miss" it always reminds me of George Carlin's take on the term. As he said, how can nearly hitting someone be a "near miss"? Shouldn't it be called a "near hit" instead?



Protagonist, whatever it's called, glad to hear your safe from your encounter!
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Old 04-24-2016, 11:40 AM   #75
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Whenever I hear the term "near miss" it always reminds me of George Carlin's take on the term. As he said, how can nearly hitting someone be a "near miss"? Shouldn't it be called a "near hit" instead?
Thank you for that trip down Memory Lane.

But comedy aside, "near miss" is the right term. It was a miss, but near.

By the way, an accident where two or more moving vehicles hit each other is a "collision." However, an accident where one moving vehicle hits a stationary object is an "allision." Nobody but the Coast Guard uses that word anymore, and they often misuse it as a contraction for "alleged collision." Fun facts to know and tell.

Sooner or later, I'll expel all of this useless trivia cluttering up my brain. Hopefully the useful stuff won't disappear along with the trivia!
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Old 04-24-2016, 11:57 AM   #76
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RAH Post #69 is the Holy Grail for Trailering Towing.

My wife was a passenger with a co worker and commented about her 'tail gating and not signaling' during lane changes. Her co worker... did not even realize she was doing anything up to that point. She said 'If you drove any other way in Houston, you would never be able to exit the Highway". But my wife's comment did make a profound change in her driving in Kansas City, Missouri.

Many of these drivers are not even aware this is risky behavior. They don't, and do not care. They may have learned from a parent or 'friends'.

Learning to fly a helicopter at the age of 19 taught me there are more directions than front, back, left and right. There was also ABOVE and BELOW. After that experience... my driving seemed simple.

Make it a personal contest. Try to locate the poor driver(s) on your four planes of direction and keep an eye on their driving behavior. Watch everyone react. Avoid them by letting them advance and leave your area. But... IF they create an accident, you may want to volunteer your information as a witness. Not that many would.

These incidents are not unusual. Some may even figure you as a possible rear end collision opportunity and pull over in front of you and lock up their brakes. It is usually a wreck with a license plate.

You may want to believe that everyone thinks, reacts and respects others on the road. Ignore these people. Some drivers may actually WANT to create an issue. Avoid eye contact. You reduce one grey hair at a time in these situations. I have seen too many close encounters among other drivers. Think and look ahead. Try to predict the behavior(s) of others in advance. It sure beats listening to the radio and you get better at it over time.

How far ahead? That separates a pilot from an automobile driver. Speed, space, conditions and visibility. Our task is simple.
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Old 04-24-2016, 12:08 PM   #77
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Many of the prior posts are "right on". I have found that in my retirement years, I just don't need to be in as much of a hurry as most folks seem to be! It does not bother me if someone "takes the spot" in front of me...if they need it, they can have it! For me, my goal is to arrive where I am going....safely.

It does concern me that there seems to be little "road courtesy" shown these days. If I can, in some small way, demonstrate a bit of road courtesy, perhaps one or two may learn from it.....or not. I am always going to allow the road hogs to have their way, rather than to test them. It does me no good to have the lead by one or two vehicle lengths....again, my goal is to arrive safely. I usually feel much safer, by seeing the road hog ..... Way up front.
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Near Hit - in the Bay Area, folks ride a motorcycle to beat the traffic backups. Distance is easy to drive, if the car in front is moving. So riders split lanes. That is the practice of riding between two lanes of cars that are slowed, stopped, or often moving quickly, but not quick enough. So lots of near hits when slowed for traffic and lane change contemplated as a bike blasts past in your way. Right of way you ask. Well, if you change lane and hit a bike, you are at fault.

Hazard bang- one method of notifying the folks in traffic of your presence is to blip the throttle as you approach. When traveling at speed and approaching a stopped section of traffic, the approach speed is significant and can startle drivers who have not detected the bike. Issue is escalated when bike has open or near open exhaust. Kind of like having a explosive device detonated in your ear. Needless to say, folks often have a very negative perspective of such riders.

Hazard buzz - the quieter bikes often come in the form of what some people reference as organ donors. The current range of high performance bikes can accelerate to what most folks think of as excessive speed rather quickly. Had one pass me at over 100 mph and was considerably startled.

Hazard crash - often the image of the traffic blockage that is passed after a long wait in line is a bent and mangles motorcycle laying on it's side. Rear end car smashes are marked by folks exchanging info. The bike event quite often has an emergency vehicle called before the wrecker shows up.

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These incidents are not unusual. Some may even figure you as a possible rear end collision opportunity and pull over in front of you and lock up their brakes.
Fortunately for insurance and driving record, some state laws recognize that the vehicle in back isn't always at fault, that hitting someone who has just pulled into your lane doesn't necessarily mean you were following too close.

But that's a small comfort when your vehicle is totalled due to engine compartment damage and the other guy's vehicle is still driveable with just a dented-up rear end.

So my rule is, if anyone changes lanes in front of me within my preferred safe following distance, I don't wait for him to brake; I start slowing down to widen the gap regardless.

In my ideal driving scenario, everyone ahead of me is pulling farther ahead, and everyone behind is falling farther behind. Seldom ever happens that way except maybe in west Texas, but adjusting my speed to come as close as possible to that ideal is a habit.
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Pilots tend to have poor driving records. Military the worst.

I know that in never going back to a non Hensley hitch that it's always easier for me to move the rig as one when its called for. Ditto for braking.

As for driving with no emotion, it's a nice idea. Better be a short day en route to keep it feasible. Haven't seen a citation or other in about thirty years (knock on wood) And brakes last me 100k miles these days; 50/50 city & country. But I'd never bank on being emotionless. Best to know what sets one off.

Offensive drivers really don't care. It's the others around one to also be aware of. Too easy to involve them in something not of their making.
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Enough pontificating. Here's a link to some simple tips to get started. What do you think?

http://m.wikihow.com/Drive-Defensively
Not to nitpick... ok, maybe I am - but on step #1 I thought 10/2 driving went out the window with the introduction of steering wheel air bags; that it's now 4/8 driving, with thumbs not wrapped around the wheel.

From what I know if in the newer driver's ed, if airbags go off, thumbs gripped usually mean dislocated or broken thumbs; and 10/2 hand positions usually introduce arm injuries as well.
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Not not picking at all. That's why the thread was started. Share your ideas. Thanks for that one!
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Not to nitpick... ok, maybe I am - but on step #1 I thought 10/2 driving went out the window with the introduction of steering wheel air bags; that it's now 4/8 driving, with thumbs not wrapped around the wheel.

From what I know if in the newer driver's ed, if airbags go off, thumbs gripped usually mean dislocated or broken thumbs; and 10/2 hand positions usually introduce arm injuries as well.
I've never wrapped my thumbs around the wheel, even before airbags. Hitting a pothole and having the wheel jerked out of your hands is a good way to get a thumb injury, too, and when I was a kid I knew someone that happened to. Of course, back then, many cars had steering wheels with metal-core hard plastic rims and solid metal spokes, not like the all-plastic steering wheels you have today.

But as for the 4/8 positioning, you have less control over the wheel there; the 10/2 positioning still provides the best ergonomics for maintaining positive control with least wrist and shoulder strain. I'll risk an arm injury if the airbag goes off, because positive control 99.999% of the time is more important to me than avoiding an injury 0.001% of the time. If 10/2 positioning worries you, split the difference and go with 9/3 positioning; if nothing else that will at least put your thumbs in the right position to work the buttons on the steering wheel.
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Our TV has bulges for improved grip at 10 and 2 on the wheel.

Myth busters did a show on airbags vs hands and found, IIRC, no issues
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