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Old 04-18-2016, 06:39 PM   #57
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My favorite bumper sticker.... "Cover me, I'm changing lanes."

Here in Florida, I don't make eye contact with other drivers, and especially don't point any "finger" at them. Bullets will start flying. The tipping point between good and evil has gone to evil. Just my opinion, but just go for a ride and see.
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Old 04-18-2016, 07:13 PM   #58
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Here in Florida, I don't make eye contact with other drivers, and especially don't point any "finger" at them. Bullets will start flying.
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Old 04-18-2016, 07:59 PM   #59
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I vote for Paula's suggestion.
I would LOVE IT if law enforcement would run "Text Traps".

The other day on my way home from work the gentleman in the vehicle next to me had 1 hand on his phone texting, and was enjoying a slice of pizza with the other hand. This while stopped at a brief red light. You can be darn sure as he took off when the light changed green that I had my eyes on him until he managed to get at least 1 hand on the wheel.
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Old 04-18-2016, 09:25 PM   #60
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Earlier this year we were climbing up a hill on an Interstate highway near an on ramp. A semi, minus any trailer, was on the ramp. I had traffic to my left, so moving over for him wasn't an option. I held my foot to the floor, as it had been for a couple of minutes, and continued the climb. The semi started moving over toward me. I hit the air horn and the brakes. He moved back into his own lane and his brakes. As a result of his error it took both of us a lot longer to get to the top of the hill.
On one of my Ontario Commercial Vehicle Operator License tests, I managed to get an answer wrong. The question was "When a vehicle is entering a highway from an on ramp, who has to give way?

Is it
a) The vehicle entering?
b) the vehicle already on the the highway?
c) Both vehicles? or
d) Neither Vehicle?

I went for (a) but the answer was actually (c), which surprised me. I did question it but the law here definitely says (c). It makes sense, I suppose, to negotiate an entry onto the highway, especially in heavy traffic, but I think sometimes the bigger vehicle tends to try to and dominate. Either way, it's never worth insisting on your right of way and causing a crash. Back off when needed; discretion is, after all, the better part of valor.
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Old 04-18-2016, 09:47 PM   #61
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Makes sense. It's like two lanes merging together into one. Cars in both lanes have to cooperate, regardless of which lane seems to continue and which lane ends.


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Our experiences with other drivers in the Airstream has been mostly good if we're driving during the week; it's the weekenders that simply have no clue it seems.

Our most common issue where we need to take evasive action is people who merge onto freeways without looking until the last moment, when they see a wall of blue and aluminum. I've now taken to very quickly blipping the horn; these people are easy to spot by their target fixation on the end of the on-ramp.

I will agree that riding motorcycles definitely helps with the 'situational awarness', but switching from a ride that does 0-60 in under 4 seconds to one that takes at least five times as long takes a little getting use to .

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lane merges

One of my greatest traffic frustrations is when two lanes merge into one and folks move into the go ahead lane before reaching the merge. The result is to slow the go ahead lane while rewarding the merge lane by reducing the number of cars in it. So everyone in the know, moves to the merge lane and the go ahead waits and waits. If both lanes hold and yield one each lane over and over, the merge goes quickly and efficiently. However, there are not many folks who understand and practice the process.

Outside of Virginia Beach we were one car behind a nice Bambi. Thought we could give them a wave. It was about a mile to the merge and by the time we got there we were 20 cars back. No wave. No smile. No fun that day.

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Driving defensively against offensive drivers

I take the other side of this issue, I think it is courtesy to get in the lane that is to remain open early, but,,, I am not opposed to blocking the lane that is ending to keep people from jumping line. I have done that, and there is little doubt that I will again.


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I am not opposed to blocking the lane that is ending to keep people from jumping line.
I've done that before, but I try not to do it anymore. It's not a competition to see who can get in front, and if they really want to be in front and don't endanger me to get there, then power to them. At least when they're in front I can keep an eye on them more easily.
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We do the "zipper merge" in Minnesota. It's our way.
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I've done that before, but I try not to do it anymore. It's not a competition to see who can get in front, and if they really want to be in front and don't endanger me to get there, then power to them. At least when they're in front I can keep an eye on them more easily.

To me it is kinda like standing in line at the supermarket and whole droves of people cutting in front of me.

I try to be a very courteous driver, and as such, so long as it is safe for me to do so, I will demand a little courtesy in return on occasion.


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taking emotion out of driving

There have been a lot of great points in this thread on how to drive in a way to arrive at your destination campground safely. I try to do two things:

First, I drive with no emotion, or at least I try really hard to. I have no angry reaction to anything another driver does. Anger while driving is a useless emotion, at least for me. This has been a big change for me, especially since I started towing.

Second, I ascribe the best possible motive to every other driver and everything I observe them doing on the road. I assume that each driver is doing the best they can, based on their experience, vehicle condition, and their frame of mind. For some young drivers, I attribute their speeding and impatience to their inexperience. For some older drivers, I assume they are doing the best they can. For some vehicles that appear to be held together by duct tape, I assume that the vehicle may be cause for some difficulty in driving safely. For other drivers, I assume they are having a bad day, they are stressed, they have distractions in the car (kids, pets, phones, whatever), they are unfamiliar with the roads, or they really have to go to the bathroom. Whatever another driver does, I believe they are doing the best they can at that point in time. By ascribing the best possible motivation to other drivers, it helps me keep my own emotions out of my head, so my actions and reactions are driven by logic and decision.

Driving in this fashion requires quite an imagination sometimes, as there is such a high frequency of really bad driving behavior that endangers everyone on the road. For me, I have no use for a loud air horn mentioned in previous posts. If I had one of those, I would be more quick to ascribe negative motives to other drivers, and then decide to take an action (i.e., the air horn) out of my own anger. For me this would delay my taking a more appropriate action to improve my own safety, such as putting more distance between myself and them.

Like they used to say on Hill Street Blues, let’s be careful out there.
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For me, I have no use for a loud air horn mentioned in previous posts.
A horn in a motor vehicle is meant to warn others of impending danger, as in "Hey! You're about to do something needlessly risky!"

Too many people use their horn instead as a way of saying, "Hey! I'm in a hurry!" or even, "Hey! You piss me off!" And because so many people do, too many people who HEAR your horn ignore it because they assume you're NOT providing a warning but rather making a rude comment with it. Like blowing a raspberry.

In all the time I've owned and driven motor vehicles, I've probably used the horn more often at the vehicle inspection station to test it than I did on the road.
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