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Old 07-02-2004, 10:04 AM   #1
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Talking Costs A Bunch?

Janet and I were talking last week while we were out enjoying our Tucannon River camping trip, we were wondering just what does this hobby of our cost?
I have read in the forums where people aren't sure what the cost of Airstreaming is. My figures are based on our Minuet and I 'm pretty sure I factored in most of the costs. I am using Conservative figures.

A sample vacation costs per day:
$90.00 motel
$60.00 food
$35.00 fuel
$8.00 Admission/parking pass at a park
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$193.00 per day cost will vary most likely up.

These figures are based on using our trailer 6 weeks per year 42 days.
The cost of the trailer after all is said and done $10,000.00.
Upkeep is consider minimal cost over this period.

YEAR 1:
$238.09 cost of trailer per day 42/10000
$15.00 cost of camp site
$20.00 cost of food
$ 4.76 cost of insurance
$45.50 cost of fuel 30% more than none tow situation
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$323.35 cost per day based on 42 day use.

Year 2:
$119.48 cost of trailer per day 84/10000
$15.00 cost of camp site
$20.00 cost of food
$ 4.76 cost of insurance
$45.50 cost of fuel 30% more than none tow situation
________
$204.74 cost per day based on 84 days of total use.

Year 3:
$79.37 cost of trailer per day 126/10000
$15.00 cost of camp site
$20.00 cost of food
$ 4.76 cost of insurance
$45.50 cost of fuel 30% more than none tow situation
________
$164.63 cost per day based on 126 days of use.

Year 4:
$59.52 cost of trailer per day 168/10000
$15.00 cost of camp site
$20.00 cost of food
$ 4.76 cost of insurance
$45.50 cost of fuel 30% more than none tow situation
________
$144.78 cost per day based on 168 days of use.

Well you have beat the cost of traveling using motels after year 2 and it just keeps getting cheaper. Of course you will have to do repairs hopefully nothing major because that will reset the discount clock. I did not figure ware and tear on your tow vehicle because that costs about the same no matter what. Just think"
Year 25:
$9.53 cost of trailer per day 1050/10000
$15.00 cost of camp site
$20.00 cost of food
$ 4.76 cost of insurance
$45.50 cost of fuel 30% more than none tow situation
________
$94.79 cost per day based on 1050 days of use.

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Old 07-02-2004, 11:41 AM   #2
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Interesting. If I pop my figures in your calculation, then I could stay at the Ritz for every vacation for the next 2 years, and come out money ahead.
I should be an Airstream - Millionaire.
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Old 07-02-2004, 11:49 AM   #3
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and your point...?

So.... Hubby, the way I read this we have a financial obligation to use the trailer more than 42 days per year. That way we break even sooner

If we used it 100 days this year the cost (including all trip expenses would be 185.26 - cheaper by a little than hotels.

So I propose:
A Trip across canada
A jaunt to Alaska - starting on the san Juan islands
Later in the year, lets do new england and wander down to the the Flodida keys
And finally for the holdays, lets put that Minuet on a cruise ship and head for New zealand!

Start packing - now - we've got a lot of days to make up!
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Old 07-02-2004, 01:10 PM   #4
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Wow, Gary, you must be a lot of fun around the campfire! This is just the sort of annoying calculation my husband likes to do while we're camping I hope we meet you two at a rally sometime so you both can calculate together!

But he says it's not as bad as you figure, because you've included the cost of the trailer. Since the trailer is an item that remains and maintains it's value, not something that is used up and thrown away, he doesn't include the trailer cost. For example, if we wanted to get out of RVing today, we could put the trailer up for sale and get back all we had into it, probably a little more. If you have more into your trailer than it's worth on the market, then you could spread out that excess amount over your calculations. It paints a little rosier picture.

I argue that many of the places we've stayed don't have hotels in a comparable location. For example, when we camped on the Naches River in E WA last year, the closest place to stay would have been Whistling Jacks Lodge. Not exactly the same thing, and probably more than $90 a night. When we stay at Emigrant Lake in Ashland, OR, the nearest hotels are by the freeway looking out over parking lots and truck stops. So you can compare them dollar-wise, but they're not really the same thing.
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Gary think about this.......

In the Coby Bryant case they had to go through about 100 samples of body fluid found in the hotel bed that they were sleeping in before they found his........

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Gary think about this.......

In the Coby Bryant case they had to go through about 100 samples of body fluid found in the hotel bed that they were sleeping in before they found his........

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I really could have done without that little tidbit of knowledge. Thanks Alot!
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I guess with a new trailer and its cost, it's far from being cost justified. With that said, its all mine and I share it with no one. My bed, my shower, my toilet etc., etc, etc., and I take it where ever I please. That's the overriding factor in our justification.

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Old 07-02-2004, 01:36 PM   #8
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I figured that would make everybodies day.......
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I love it!!

However, as with all of my hobbies, I amortize the initial cost to join the club (trailer, complete set of salmon fishing gear, etc.) on the first usage. For example: I was transferred to the Northwest to fly A-6's. While there I wanted to go salmon fishing so . . . $180.00 later (1976 dollars!) I had everything I needed. I went fishing and caught the finest salmon I've ever had! $90.00 a pound; caviar never tasted as good! Every time I went fishing after that, the fish was free as all of the equipment was paid for!

Same with the trailer: first time camping equalled about $2500.00 per day. Boy, that's living like a millionair! Now, since the cost has been amortized, I'm camping for next to nothing and I can't tell the difference!!!

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I think it is a little different with a trailer/motor home. You can not sell your hotel room, it is like rent, you get nothing for it. You have a great investment with an Airstream. If not mistaken, you can always get most of your investment back when you sell it, or even more if you have done some remodeling. Then your cost of camping goes down to nothing or you could even be getting "paid" to camp. Anyway, either way, it is a great life. Being outdoors, camp fires, meeting wonderful people. You do not get that in a hotel room.
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Lightbulb More expenses!

Gary,
Don't forget the yearly maintenance labor/time costs of washing, walbernizing, winterizing, storage costs (if stored under cover) in RV storage facility, maid service (compared to motels) to change your bed sheets (assuming you change them), toilet chemicals, tires, tp, inside daily sweeping/mopping, cleaning, LP tank refueling, generator cost + fuel (if used), computer cost (provider fee) used to look up how to fix your A/S on these forums, prep time to load and unload your A/S pre and post trip (takes me 1/2 day each way, so one day of work pay missed). Now, I haven't even touched the costs of rehabbing a Vintage A/S, but will include that the same as time spent camping, because you Vintagers all seem to have as much fun restoring as camping. I think we do a lot of things that cost money towards camping, but we chalk it up to having fun with our toys! Who would have it different!
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Gary think about this.......

In the Coby Bryant case they had to go through about 100 samples of body fluid found in the hotel bed that they were sleeping in before they found his........
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All this and, they changed the sheets what?? once every week??
GIVE ME MY A/S....anyday~!!
Wonder if any were "repeats"...lmao
Out of civility, I'll drop this line of...
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Not to keep this going, but to keep it going - it was not the sheets, it was the bed.

I travel a lot for business, and as you can tell, I'm not fond at all of motels/hotels. I tend to be meticulous about things and tend to find hotels to be not very clean - I'll take my nice trailer anyday.

I agree in a cost analysis you have to take into consideration how much you will eventually sell the trailer for as well as maintenance costs, but really all that does'nt matter because your having fun, meeting new friends (when was the last time you met someone at a hotel) and besides you can't take it with you.

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Old 07-03-2004, 10:53 AM   #14
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I would like to give you the real scoop on how I really feel about the cost of ownership.
"Frankly Scarlet, I don't give a damn".
The cost does not matter. There is something to be said for the intangibles that come with Airstream ownership.
Some times my practical side tries to slip into the picture. At times like that I just kick it in the butt and say "Lets go Camping".
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