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Old 02-09-2017, 03:48 PM   #57
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I had no idea of the ''Civil Forfeiture Law'' enacted by President Reagan in 1984. Design to seize drug money, since 9/11 reports of officers making random stops for cash seizures. I go to flea markets, yard sales, estate sales where cash is the only thing accepted. This law, is now being abused all over the country by law enforcement. A ''Black Asphalt '' training program teaches police how to seize cash, without criminal cause. Don't believe me? Check the net. It's bad enough worrying about the criminals, now this. So if not cash, does every campground, restaurant, attractions, accept credit cards? Has anyone had cash seized for no reason? This thread is to inform us on this little known law. I plan to take a long trip and carrying cash for expenses...now I don't know. Some gas stations in Virginia give you .10 discount for cash. How do you guys pay for things on the road. Please don't kill the messenger.
We pay for almost everything with credit card. Seems to me to be a much safer way to utilize my funds. With the $0.03 discount obtained at Pilot and Flying J (using Good Sam member card) and the cashback bonus on our credit card(s) I don't feel like I'm missing much compared to the periodic $0.10 discount at some gasoline stations.

We obtain more cash when needed by stopping at a credit union. Many (if not most) credit unions are "shared branches" and can access your account anywhere across the country. There are more variety of credit union locations around the country than branches of a given big bank so obtaining money while on the road has not been a problem for us. When I purchased a used vehicle (several states away) I did not want to fly with that much cash for a variety of reasons. I explained to the seller that we would go to a "shared branch" credit union to obtain the funds. There are limits to the amount of cash you can access through a single transaction from a shared branch but it's way more than I'll ever need.
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Old 02-09-2017, 04:12 PM   #58
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What is our protection or best course, for those of us who carry large amounts of cash?
Don't advertise it on a public forum?
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Old 02-09-2017, 04:32 PM   #59
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Don't advertise it on a public forum?
Brilliant! Thanks for the advice. Never occurred to me that thieving trolls hung out on this forum. Now they know I usually pay in cash . They know the town I live in, and that I have an Airstream. Now if they figure out where I am at any given time on the road, I am in trouble. Again thanks for the great advice.

I was actually asking about legal protections, SeeMore seemed to have a very good grasp on the laws pertaining to asset confiscation
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I don't know...maybe keep the bottle in the stapled bag from the pharm. Come on peeps, let common sense rule
Right because the cops use common sense. Great advice.
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This is exactly the reason the OP posted the thread. It is absolutely an issue and documented cases absolutely exist across the US. There is no way to avoid a forfeiture under a traffic stop. It is the officers prerogative to seize your cash and they get credit on their resume for it. Never, ever give permission to anyone to search your vehicle or trailer. Youtube FBI search studies. It is the goal of any stop to escalate it into a felony stop or a seizure stop.
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Under the forfeiture law your cash is guilty of a crime until proven innocent! In my experience there has been a few times when the computer or phone system is down and only 1 out of about 10 people had enough cash, if any, to pay for what they wanted at the register. The cops will try and steal your cash once in a while and you could get stuck at a gas station or market if you don't have cash on hand. This is the way the USA is now, not the place I grew up in!
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Right because the cops use common sense. Great advice.
LOL- learned a long time ago we only have control over ourselves- no one else! Some not-so-common sense
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Old 02-09-2017, 09:25 PM   #65
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Annual Federal asset seizures grew from $303 million in 2003 to over $3.1 Billion in 2015 (last audited accounting from the Department of Justice for the Marshall's Service).

I don't know where one can tally all the state and municipal seizures to better gauge the national phenomenon.
Over $3.1 Billion annually...I wonder how what % of this is from criminals vs innocent people? Something else that I learned from you guys and gals, is never carry someone else's prescriptions in my vehicle. Thanks for the info. Also, rumor has it that Lilly is married and expecting puppies. I want one and how much? It's on the net, so it's got to be true Seriously, I was hoping that no one here had not experienced this problem. I'm so sorry for those of you that had been wronged. It's the few bad peas that ruin the bowl. 99% of law enforcement are there to help us, and I still will anonymously buy there meal when the opportunity occurs. Being the great roll models that we are, I feel honored to be part of this community.
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This all could have been avoided if he hadn't been carrying illegal drugs no matter the amount.
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This all could have been avoided if he hadn't been carrying illegal drugs no matter the amount.
It might also have been avoided if he hadn't believed the officer's lie that they would just write him a ticket for personal-use amounts. In total the case describes about 0.6 ounces of marijuana present in the RV. While that was and still is illegal in Nebraska, it's hardly a commercial quantity and was used as a pretext to steal his $48,000. I'm somewhat surprised they didn't go whole-hog and steal the RV as well, but since that was registered in his parents' name they may have decided it would be harder to keep.

It's exactly the example that was asked for earlier, an RVer whose money was stolen by police via civil asset foreiture under the guise of drug enforcement.
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