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Old 12-22-2004, 07:14 PM   #15
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John, this is really interesting to read about. Thanks for sharing with the forum. How did you use it when you were the owner? Share some stories about it maybe??? Thanks!
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Old 12-22-2004, 07:57 PM   #16
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thats a good one fred!

m and g,

i used it mostly as living quarters, moved it only a couple of times in the 2 years i had it. very costly even with connections with the mucky mucks at the railroad.

it was quite spacious to live in, i always had room for guests! i used the facilitys provided the roundhouse where i worked, as the direct dump toilet was only practical in motion!

the local cops would always come wake me up when the crossing gates in town would refuse to open after a train would go through. that was because they knew i was there 24/7 and had keys for everything!

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Old 12-22-2004, 08:41 PM   #17
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Hey I worked at IRM for a while. The politics got to me and I stoped. Now I visit every now and a gain. Love the smell of coal smoke........
John, you have has an experience that few have had and many would love. Thank you for letting us peak in.
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Old 12-23-2004, 09:40 AM   #18
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Interesting stuff! Saw a show once on a converted train car (Extreme Homes on Discovery, I think?) and it was awfully cool.

You guys would probably be interested in this:

Last December we were driving from Tacoma, home to Chicago with our new Airstream in tow, and I caught a glimpse of what looked like an old Pullman train car on a high berm, 100 yards off Interstate 90. After some begging, we doubled-back and 45 minutes later I managed to find the largely abandoned ranch at the end of a long country road. A neighbor helped me onto the property, (probably helped that I was wearing a Stetson and driving a Chevy) and I took up the remaining space in my digital camera with these shots...

http://bradcornelius.com/pullman/

It turned out I was correct, I located the bronze manufacturer's plate and it's a Pullman Vestibule, with patent dates ranging from 1887 to 1889. It must've been a kitchen car, as it had two giant cast-iron stoves inside, built in Indiana, and what looked like a walk-in pantry. You can still see a few of the yellow and pink colored class along the windows in the ceiling...

That note at the end is for any train museum or collector who might want to actually try and save this thing. I sent the link to a few museums, hoping to be involved in the form of a documentarian if someone did move on it. Now, a year later... it may already be gone - the neighbor mentioned that the land owner was contemplating burning the little piece of history to the ground.
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Old 12-23-2004, 10:23 AM   #19
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An amazing piece of woodwork.Was there any way to tell of what type of wood it was built? It looks pretty weathered. I have to wonder what the cost was to build originally and who the company was.
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An amazing piece of woodwork.Was there any way to tell of what type of wood it was built? It looks pretty weathered. I have to wonder what the cost was to build originally and who the company was.
I'm not that good at identifying species of wood, particularly in that condition. I'm certain though, that the car was built at Pullman's main Chicago factory, on the south side of the city, based on the dates. The victorian-style headquarters building was nearly burned to the ground by a insane homeless man in 1998. I've attached a photo of how Pullman looked in 1893, and when I found it on a snowy afternoon in 2002...

(As a side note, Pullman was used for several locations in the movie Road to Perdition, including the Hotel Florence, and the main factory buildings where Hanks killed rival gangsters as his son peeked through the door.
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it certainly looks like a pre 1890 pullman to me, mohogany was a very common wood in cars of that era. the dome in the vestibule is a dead give away!

point of note, the car is numbered X 10. numbers that started with X or M or MOW were reserved for maint. of way equipment on the milwaukee road.

the terra haute was numbered M 850, the idea with the numbers was that cars like these were NEVER to be interchanged with other railroads. that was because they usually did not meet current saftey standard because of their age.

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also

if you guys want to see what one of these wood cars looked like in the day click on the link below...


http://www.mcrwy.com/

click on the equipment roster, then click on wooden passenger equipment.

they were spectacular to say the least! as till stated about the museum in ill. i was a member of midcontinent until the politics got to me. still, a very interesting place, certainly worth a visit if you are interested in turn of the century rail road history.

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Again a beauitiful building. It's a real shame to see this kind of architecture fall in to total neglect. Also if these coaches were built of Mahogany it would cost a large fortune to build one today.
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If anyone is interested, there is a show on RFD-TV Channel 379, DirecTV, called "Trains and Locomotives", it is on Dish also, don't know the channel. I think it is on Sunday mornings, maybe Saturday too.

Last weekend we went for a short train ride in Newberry, FL. They have a short spur that they give rides on during December. It is pulled by an older diesel-electric locomotive. The car was made in 1920, kind of spartan all, metal interior.
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i do believe

That I rode a bicycle through that very tunnel. But then most of those tunnels out there look alike? Beautiful country, unforgettable ride.

And that current picture looks straight out of the movie Polar Express. Gorgeous.

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here are a couple of pics of one of the locomotives that the railroad had (i think we had 6 or 7 total) it was a small operation, short line in southern wisconsin.

i actually helped paint this one, the tunnel shot was taken on the ex ill. central line just north of monticello wisconsin.

again these are pics i found on the internet, still kicking myself for not having a camera when i was young and dumb! i had plenty of money for beer!

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[QUOTE=bredlo]Interesting stuff! Saw a show once on a converted train car (Extreme Homes on Discovery, I think?) and it was awfully cool.

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Yep. you were granted a look at the past .. neat huh.. best left to R.I.P.
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Old 01-17-2005, 01:43 PM   #27
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Takin a ride...

Hi Guys....
Tho Yr Railroad system is a lot more tamer, relaxed, than ours here in the UK, I jus wonder How many of U Guys TOOK a ride on the railroad for free...I taped a short film abt it last year...& quite frankly it realy creases Me...real cool...I've actualy put it on My 2do's list....sayin that, whilst We were in Boston, this time last year, We went by rail from Boston to Salem, to visit the Witches...LOL...Although the rail trip was only less than an hour, it's the point I make abt travelin on an American Train...But I realy wanted 2do it like a Hobo does.... ( NO Upsettin intended )...kinda Box car Willie thing, SO how many of U done that as a youth then ???....& would U do it agn ?...LOL...Chris.....
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Old 01-18-2005, 04:20 AM   #28
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Chris,
I don't doubt we still have "hoboes" riding the trains, but in this day and age I would not reccomend it. You are likely to face federal charges especially after 9/11. Also FWIW a couple of years ago they finally caught a serial killer/rapist that was riding the rails, he was charged with something like 8 murders in 5 states and suspected in several more, he was getting around by hopping freight trains from one part of the country to the other. He was charged in Missouri, North Carolina and Texas, among others. The romance of the rails....has a black underbelly. But there are plenty of short line, dinner trains, and tourist trains to ride. We have a privately owned "hobby" railway near us that a couple of times a year you can "buy" engineer time and they will actually let you run the train for a couple of miles or so. Here is a link toNew Hope Valley RR I am sure there are others around the country.

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