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Old 09-27-2005, 09:20 PM   #15
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It doesn't make any sense. If they changed out the panels because of damage, why would they use an old window? Seems it would be more work to retrofit the existing window than to put in one correct for the number of panels. The round emblem in front of the door is a reflective star in a circle, more than likely a decal.

I still think its a '58 something or other made in CA.

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Old 09-27-2005, 09:27 PM   #16
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The problem, Brad, is that the front window configuration went away about 1955 or so... so what I'm having a problem figuring out is why they'd use a window that would be four or five years obsolete if it is, indeed, a '57 or later?

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Old 09-27-2005, 09:31 PM   #17
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That's what I was saying. You just said it better. Maybe its a parts trailer made from left overs. Its an anomoly for sure. Too bad it doesn't have the red numbers on it so we could inquire about it.

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Old 09-27-2005, 10:06 PM   #18
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The problem, Brad, is that the front window configuration went away about 1955 or so... so what I'm having a problem figuring out is why they'd use a window that would be four or five years obsolete if it is, indeed, a '57 or later?

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Left over parts? I had a three quarter ton 69 1/2 GMC pickup that had driveline parts from a Korean War vingtage weapons carrier in it...had to have the drive shaft rebuilt and the OEM parts did not match up. I was the second owner of that truck and knew the first owner and the complete history of the truck from the time it was purchased new....best we can figure is that it was close to the end of the production run and they needed some bits and pieces to complete the trucks on the line and told someone to "find some parts"...

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Old 09-27-2005, 10:48 PM   #19
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Fwiw ...

... i'm having similar trouble with this trailer but it appears to be a foot longer than the one in question. as shari's site points out, that was an era in which anything went at the airstream company. some days i think this is a pacer & others a traveler.

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Old 09-28-2005, 09:16 AM   #20
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'57.....yeah, "Heinz 57", with attributes of so many different trailers. I knew this would make for interesting discussion....

I was wondering about the door config, too. I zoomed in on the original, and it doesn't look like the door was moved. I think that would have been quite obvious when I was standing right next to it, too. But why mount it that way? yes, awning arms would interfere if it were mounted the other way...but awnings of the era didn't have arms.
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Old 09-28-2005, 12:02 PM   #21
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Smile Hmm many different eras in one? Maybe its...

the trailer that Jack built? No offense intended. Grandma's favorite phrase came to mind. Great puzzler Chuck. Thanks for sharing!
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Any interior shots? They may help narrow down the year based on the cabinet/interior finish style assuming they remian mostly intact, which from your description it may not be 100%, but there may be a key feature that gives us a clue.

FWIW I would say it's one of the CA built '58 "18-Footers"...there were quite a few different layouts, not all of them had names. Any serial number tags present? Even inside a cabinet inside?

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'57.....yeah, "Heinz 57", with attributes of so many different trailers. I knew this would make for interesting discussion....

I was wondering about the door config, too. I zoomed in on the original, and it doesn't look like the door was moved. I think that would have been quite obvious when I was standing right next to it, too. But why mount it that way? yes, awning arms would interfere if it were mounted the other way...but awnings of the era didn't have arms.
Actually, Chuck... I just re-checked... My '53 Flying Cloud has the rear-opening door-in-a-door as did the original Bambi in '61. So the door may not be as much of an issue as we initially thought.

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Any interior shots? They may help narrow down the year based on the cabinet/interior finish style assuming they remian mostly intact, which from your description it may not be 100%, but there may be a key feature that gives us a clue.

FWIW I would say it's one of the CA built '58 "18-Footers"...there were quite a few different layouts, not all of them had names. Any serial number tags present? Even inside a cabinet inside?

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nope, no interior shots. (too depressing inside. its really a basket case ). unless any other attendees snapped any?..(Yukionna?? )

Another 'streamer pointed out to me the spot where the interior tag was attached to the inside of a cabinet door. but its not there now. Its as if someone went way out of there way to keep the identity of this little trailer a secret. gives me an idea for a new t.v. series: "CSI: Jackson Center". What do you think? has a nice ring to it....

Calling it an 18-footer would be a bit optimistic, as it is just over 16' from bumper to ball. Unless they meant "Canadian" feet, or something like that....
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Any interior shots? They may help narrow down the year based on the cabinet/interior finish style assuming they remian mostly intact, which from your description it may not be 100%, but there may be a key feature that gives us a clue.

FWIW I would say it's one of the CA built '58 "18-Footers"...there were quite a few different layouts, not all of them had names. Any serial number tags present? Even inside a cabinet inside?

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The interior layout is identical to the layout of the 1957 CA and OH 16' Bubbles except there is a single bed in the location of the curbside dinette. You can see the '57 Bubble layout on the Airstream archive website. I hope this information helps.
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How about this Airstream??

Saw this older airstream today at my storage lot. Had markings of International, Sovereign, & Land Yacht.
Anyone know what year it might be?
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Saw this older airstream today at my storage lot. Had markings of International, Sovereign, & Land Yacht.
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Old 10-02-2005, 06:08 AM   #28
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I can peg it a little closer It is at least a 77, it has the little low side marker lights in the rear, those were not on the 75's or early production 76's...also looks like it could stand a new set of axles Get us the VIN number off the tag under the window by the door and we can really narrow it down.

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