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Old 09-26-2016, 08:20 PM   #1
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camping in canyon land and other NPs

I was looking at some info on canyon land and see in the fees section this info.

FEES
Fees are charged for park entrance, camping
and backcountry permits. Eighty percent of
the fees collected at Canyonlands are re-
turned to the park to address priority needs
in maintenance, infrastructure, resource
management and visitor services. The fol-
lowing fees are in effect for Canyonlands:
Entrance: $20/vehicle, $10/individual
Interagency Annual Pass: $80
Local Annual Passport: $40
Developed Campgrounds:
Squaw Flat (Needles) - $15/night
Willow Flat (Island in the Sky) - $10/night
Group Sites (Needles) - $3/person/night


So if you are camping at canyonland like Squaw flat, do you have to pay the entrance fee every day or how does that work??
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The basic entrance fees are usually good for a week, at every park of this type I've been to. As many people in the car included for the $20 in your case, it's not $20 for the car then more for passengers. The park entrance fee and campground fees are separate.
If you'll be traveling around the SW a lot the interagency pass is usually a good deal considering the number of parks, monuments, in the area.

If you are over 65 you can get a golden pass dirt cheap, lasts the rest of your life.
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Old 09-27-2016, 08:11 AM   #3
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is the interagency pass a utah state pass or something with NPS.
I think the age is 62 now for the "Senior Pass" what a crappy name.. I liked the golden pass better for a name. ITs 10 buck for life..and yes it is a deal.




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The basic entrance fees are usually good for a week, at every park of this type I've been to. As many people in the car included for the $20 in your case, it's not $20 for the car then more for passengers. The park entrance fee and campground fees are separate.
If you'll be traveling around the SW a lot the interagency pass is usually a good deal considering the number of parks, monuments, in the area.

If you are over 65 you can get a golden pass dirt cheap, lasts the rest of your life.
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It's still called the Golden Age Passport, and is good for all NP's and 1/2 off..usually..federal campsites.

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Called the Senior Pass, but the older Golden Age Passports are still honored:

http://store.usgs.gov/pass/senior.html
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Personally, I'd stay down the road from Island in the Sky at Dead Horse Point State Park.

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The interagency pass covers most national parks and many federal lands covered by usfs and blm. States have their own park pass systems that varries by state.

Dead horse is a nice park, as long as it's not 120 degrees out! I guess that goes for the whole area though. If it hasn't snowed a drive up the LaSal loop road is nice.

Didn't want to use golden age or senior pass, didn't want to come off as ageist. Plus I've got an issue with these passes.
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Didn't want to use golden age or senior pass, didn't want to come off as ageist. Plus I've got an issue with these passes.
Curious, could explain that statement?
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It looks like the interagency pass is the same as the annual pass, http://tinyurl.com/hk22kdy
at 80 bucks a year, where as teh senior pass is 10 bucks and good for longer.

Are they the same just for a different age group it seems. but both will get you into National Park Service, Bureau of Land Management, Corps of Engineers, Fish and Wildlife Service, and Forest Service sites that charge admission.

SO does that reduce the admission price to the parks??

Dead Horse park was mentioned the other day when i was talking to some folks at a birthday party.. they said it was a nice place as well..


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The interagency pass covers most national parks and many federal lands covered by usfs and blm. States have their own park pass systems that varries by state.

Dead horse is a nice park, as long as it's not 120 degrees out! I guess that goes for the whole area though. If it hasn't snowed a drive up the LaSal loop road is nice.

Didn't want to use golden age or senior pass, didn't want to come off as ageist. Plus I've got an issue with these passes.
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I do not know the answer to your question. But the agency pass at $80 a year is a good deal and there will be a lot of opportunities to use it. We have the Golden Age pass and if you are old enough that is the way to go. If you are not old enough for it, then you might get chapped to have to pay $80 per year for what us old folks get for free. But the $80 is still a good deal.

Canyonlands does say that the admission pass is good for 7 days.
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Curious, could explain that statement?
There are some folks out there that feel using a pass is an abuse of the system that takes advantage of those who pay full price and taxpayers in general.
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Sorry for the segway.

Lumantic I've seen this before and didn't ask at the time so thanks in advance for the clarification.

If your eligible for the pass and pay for and use it is that considered an abuse.

I'm sure I'm missing something.

We currently use the annual $80.00 pass. We are looking forward to the day when we can get the senior pass (or whatever it's called them) if it's still available.
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I agree with you.. IT a good deal at $80 bucks if you hit the place with regularity. The Golden Age, aka, Senior Pass will be available for me in 2 yrs.

I think if the senior pass was 80 bucks one time would be a better deal for the NPS vs 10 bucks.. I know, i know,, all the one that will rush in saying we paid tax for years and we should get it for free.. I was going to pay the 10 bucks for the pass and donate the $70 to the NPS killing two birds with one stone.

Unfortunately our federal legislators have not done a good job of keeping our national treasures in a good state of health, but that is a problem for another day.



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I do not know the answer to your question. But the agency pass at $80 a year is a good deal and there will be a lot of opportunities to use it. We have the Golden Age pass and if you are old enough that is the way to go. If you are not old enough for it, then you might get chapped to have to pay $80 per year for what us old folks get for free. But the $80 is still a good deal.

Canyonlands does say that the admission pass is good for 7 days.
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Maybe the park service gets donations from the seniors who get in with the free pass. I seem now to belong to the Mesa Verde Association, something with Yellowstone, Arcadia, and a few other parks that we have visited and liked features of enough to support.

We use it for the low rates on Forest Service campgrounds too. It is very nice to drive up to a monument that you might not want to devote enough time to pay the $20 daily fee for 2 people and be able to do it in a half hour and go on or decide to come back or stay longer.

I am reminded how good a deal the Golden Age Pass is when I go to Canada and pay full price for Jasper and other parks. Or when I watch the Canadians on caravans in the US wince when they buy the yearly pass.
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