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Old 12-03-2010, 02:27 PM   #29
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I'm noticing an unfortunate lack of merchandise at a lot of places, not just RV places. I think a lot of businesses have cut their inventory down to the minimum to conserve cash. The business I work for has cut inventory in the last few years and we have to special order a lot of things we used to have on hand.
I usually try to call ahead if I know exactly what I'm after, so I can get the bad news in the comfort of my livingroom, instead of standing across the counter from someone who can't help me.

Silverranger,
As a warrantee item the factory should have been glad to ship you the part for free considering that you were going to install it for them for free. I've used this approach on several items before, and it usually is a relief to the manufacturer to not have you bring your product back in for such a minor item.
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Old 12-03-2010, 03:18 PM   #30
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As a warrantee item the factory should have been glad to ship you the part for free considering that you were going to install it for them for free. I've used this approach on several items before, and it usually is a relief to the manufacturer to not have you bring your product back in for such a minor item.
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Thanks. Unfortunately, the warranty is not with Atwood, but was purchased from the dealership, and covers everything in the trailer. Based on past repair history with the dealership, and the fact that they didn't have anything in stock, and didn't offer to order the part, any expectations that they would appreciate my goodwill are somewhat low. I'll probably go directly to Atwood.
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Old 12-03-2010, 03:55 PM   #31
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FWIW our nearest RV sales and service place couldn't be more different. Their parts manager went out of his way to help me when I started restoring a decrepit vintage Airstream 7 years ago, and I have been buying parts there ever since. What amazes me is how much stuff they do have in stock.
Before moving here I lived in Houston, and I really miss DeMontrond RV. Excellent service, reasonable prices and I always felt like they appreciated my custom.
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Old 12-03-2010, 04:27 PM   #32
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Here in Iowa it's snowing, but nothing like Buffalo. I don't have much to do except watch and read everyones @#$% about Wally, Sam, CW, HD, etc. and say to buy locally because that supports the community. Did you stop and think about how many jobs are created by these "big box" outfits, and the taxes paid to support the community? Shouldn't that also be considered? What about the franchises? They are local, but they also pay a fee to some corp. located somewhere else.
This all goes back to the mighty $$$; where can I get quality and service at a price I can afford.
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Old 12-03-2010, 04:40 PM   #33
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We live in a county that is somewhat economically challenged. Incomes are low, but often local store prices are high. It seems many vendors have the attitude to squeeze out the most they can because they are afraid becoming part of the poverty that is endemic here. The lack of competition seems to lead to some store owners having bad attitudes.

The nearest auto parts store doesn't look hard for things and I look elsewhere most of the time. But the store down the block where I bought a chain saw has very good customer service. The hardware store in that same town wouldn't take back a $1 item because the price code had fallen off even though we had the receipt. I have avoided them for the last 5 years except in an emergency. But the nearest Toyota dealer has the best service dep't I've ever seen at a new car dealer. A body shop nearby does excellent work and it also easy to deal with.

A restaurant we used to eat in had a refrigerator in the middle of the dining room that was very noisy. Everyone would sit as far away as possible. When I told the owner that the noise was driving us away he told me I didn't have to eat there. We didn't for years. But almost all the restaurants in the county range from awful to mediocre. Two local tire shops appear to be run by idiots, so I buy tires 75 miles away. Local lumberyards have wood stored where it is difficult to pick what I want and I have to pay first before I even see the wood, can't tell prices easily, and then they have to call someone to take me to the wood. It's much easier (and much cheaper most of the time) to buy wood at Lowe's, Sutherlands or Home Depot. I can compare prices easily between, see the quality of the wood, and pick what I want.

Medical care can be iffy. Some specialists have bad reputations, some are mediocre. For some things we go 75 miles, others 250 miles.

Gas is much more expensive in our part of the county, so we buy it where it's cheaper. The gas station owners will tell you they don't get discounts from the distributers because they don't sell much gas. They don't sell much gas because it's around 20+Ę per gallon more. They sell so little, 3 of 6 stations have gone out of business in the past 2 years. Prices at the remaining stations increased.

We can't get things we want a lot of the time. So we go 75 miles to Grand Junction, or much farther—Denver or Santa Fe. Or we shop online. My wife looks for things not made in China and can only find them on the internet, not anywhere around here. There is far more variety of goods on the internet and it's easy to compare prices. A lot of food items cannot be found here; local taste hasn't changed much since the '50's.

Outfits like Amazon have excellent return policies. We are shopping for a new SLR camera with ca. 250 mm. telephoto lens. I looked at it at Walmart (31 miles), but they charged too much for the 250 mm. lens. I could go to Best Buy (75 miles), but I've been told they have a new and awful return policy. I don't know what their price is. And last time I bought something at BB as recommended by them, it was the wrong thing, I tried another thing they recommended and it didn't work either. On Amazon's website there are many vendors with the camera, lots of explanations and reviews, the lens, kits with both and more, all easy to see.

Bad service and rip off prices can be found anywhere. However, I find the stores around here are worse than anywhere else I've lived, but it's a generality. Some are really good.

In that perfect world I keep waiting for, the one with white picket fences and cheery shop owners, all would be well. All the products would come from the US and all would work. Some seem to think that's the way it used to be, but it really wasn't. We have many more options today and the internet has made it possible.

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Old 12-03-2010, 05:18 PM   #34
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If buying locally insured an American made product would be available, I would buy 100 percent local, I'm tired of getting poor quality product from China and elsewhere in the world. U.S.A. products are not being stocked, either too expensive or not available anymore, so buying on line from a U.S. supplier of American product is actually better than buying local. Plastic tarp for covering the AS, found U.S. made quality product online. Thetford toilet online U.S. made. Maybe we should have a catalog/ database on this site of U.S. or countries with quality products that this membership endorses.
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Old 12-03-2010, 07:08 PM   #35
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Hi from Ga. . . well, here I am, responding to Mr. Ganaraska again ! I (65 yrs old) lived in small towns in Indiana and Florida ( pre-Mouse Fl ). Those arrogant (as you called them) merchants in the local hdwe store taught me how to fix our lawnmower when I was 12, in the tackle store they taught me how to fish in local waters when I was 11, the cycle shop repaired my bicycle for the cost of a tire tube when I was 9, the owner of the sporting goods store sponsored my Little team and showed me how to re-lace an old glove when I was 8. Did they have 'only' quality products, of course not. They were our neighbors, school pals' Dads, and as I remember,pretty nice folks. I'm sorry your small town experiences were not so good. Regards, Craig
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Old 12-03-2010, 08:25 PM   #36
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Well what about the OLD days when Sears was the place to shop and you received the big catalog to make up your Christmas wish list.

I don't remember anyone saying toss the catalog bypass Sears and shop local.

To my knowledge WalMart pays local taxes offers better benefits than Mom's & Pop's, hires local people and is a USA company.

What about buying gas? BP, Shell, Citgo, along with most others are all foreign owned I think Texaco and Exxon are the only USA petroleum company's same thing could be said about where do you buy your gas?

Having said that;
I bought my last set of tires at a local tire shop and paid them more than tires sold at WalMart, I buy my batteries from Auto Zone a Memphis, TN company.

We are now in the era of the global economy and yes it is at the expense of the Mom & Pop's if it makes sense I buy "local" what ever that means.
Actually WM usually cuts a deal with the local government for reduced taxes, improved infrastructure, etc for a period of years. Then when that expires they go back with their hand held out, if the local government refuses, they pack up their tents and move down the road and do it all over again, leaving behind a huge empty facility that cannot be readily reused. I have seen it happen more than a few times. Also check out what WM pays their "associates" many of whom used to make double that working in manufacturing jobs that are no longer in the US.

Currently Walmart has over 500 acres of empty stores in the US, and that doesn't include parking lots and adjacent empty stores that moved out when the WM anchor store did too.

As far as being a USA company, they are based here but that is about all. I read somewhere that if Walmart were a country they would be China's seventh largest trading partner.

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Old 12-03-2010, 11:45 PM   #37
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Here in the Omaha / Council Bluffs area we have Camping World, (which is also the AS dealer), the oldest RV Dealer in the world (A.C. Nelsen), as well as 2 other longtime RV dealers. My observation is that parts prices decreased when CW opened up a couple of years ago. On the other hand, CW shop prices are $105 per hour which are the highest in town, and I suspect the other dealers will meet their competitionís prices. So, competition is good?

On our three month vacation, we needed to buy a water pump in Kalispell, MT, and a furnace motor in Durango, CO. We could have saved one third of the total price of these parts if we were sitting at home and purchased them on the internet.

(BTW, the Durango dealer would not do the repair till two weeks in the future, even though we were in below freezing temps. I did the repair myself, but someone with less repair experience would not have been able to do it on their own. The Durango dealer is the only game in town in southern CO and SE Utah, and NM.)

On the other hand, we found earlier in the year that purchasing major parts on the internet saves a lot of money, but only if you are totally in charge of your repairs. There is a 7 day return policy with a 20% restocking fee with many of these companies. In our case, CW didnít attempt to install the water heater we bought onĖline for two months, because they were waiting for AS to send parts. In the end, our water heater didnít fit, so I had to beg the internet firm to take the water heater back, which they agreed to with a 30%! restocking fee. We ended up buying a water heater from CW.

So when in town, I prefer buying locally and call every RV dealer for the best price. I also check the internet for best parts prices, especially for AS parts. If the local guys are within a few dollars, theyíll get my business first. And on the road, where many of the problems arise, I just hope there is a parts source nearby. Other than the water heater fia$co, I havenít bought anything online this past year.
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Old 12-04-2010, 03:28 PM   #38
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Hi from Ga. . . well, here I am, responding to Mr. Ganaraska again ! I (65 yrs old) lived in small towns in Indiana and Florida ( pre-Mouse Fl ). Those arrogant (as you called them) merchants in the local hdwe store taught me how to fix our lawnmower when I was 12, in the tackle store they taught me how to fish in local waters when I was 11, the cycle shop repaired my bicycle for the cost of a tire tube when I was 9, the owner of the sporting goods store sponsored my Little team and showed me how to re-lace an old glove when I was 8. Did they have 'only' quality products, of course not. They were our neighbors, school pals' Dads, and as I remember,pretty nice folks. I'm sorry your small town experiences were not so good. Regards, Craig
Your experience certainly was different from mine. Do you remember when pop came in returnable bottles, 2 cents deposit on the 10 oz and 5 cents on the big bottles? Well the local stores were so stingy, if a child (me) brought back a pop bottle they would not part with the 2 cents, they would only let you use it as credit to buy something in their store. As for giving anything away for nothing, or helping someone for free, don't make me laugh.
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Nothing much has changed in the last 50 years. Here is an experience that happened just a month ago.

I recently bought a used Ford Windstar from a private party. It has the automatic door locks. On other Ford products I have owned, the owner's manual tells you how to turn them off. So I looked in the manual and it said ask your local Ford dealer.

So the next time I was in town I asked the service manager at the local Ford dealer how you turn the automatic door locks off. He would not tell me, but offered to book an appointment to have a mechanic turn them off, for $90 per hour, minimum one half hour.

Needless to say I am not taking my car there to have the locks turned off, or for anything else. This is the dealership that originally sold the vehicle.
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I wish to emphasise once again, I always buy locally if possible. The local businesses have to drive me away and force me to stop dealing with them. Many of them do this quite effectively.
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I appreciate our local businesses - I buy from the local feed store, the hardware store, the local tire store, the produce store that sells local produce and meats, even though it costs a little bit more. I like to have those services available locally. Maybe I can't afford to buy quite as much as if I went and bought bargain basement priced stuff at Walmart, but Walmart doesn't do me any favors. I've never had anyone in a Walmart answer a single question about their products. But the guys at the local hardware store help me out and ask how that last project went. The lady at the feed store knows what kind of chickens we have (because I bought my chicks from her too). The guys at the tire store tease me about my cars, and they let me go out in the service bay and point at exactly where to jack up the Caravel when it's time for new tires, and happily run out to check air pressure when we swing by on our way out of town for a trip. I love and support my local businesses!

But maybe I feel that way because I'm a local business too, and I know how much I appreciate my customers taking the time to go out of their way and shop with us.
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We used to have a hardware store with old gray haired, or bald headed clerks who knew all about electric wiring, or plumbing, etc. About 5 years ago a new owner bought the store and immediately fired the old timers and replaced them with part time high school kids because they are cheaper. These guys do not know anything about hardware. Soon after the change over I asked one of these kids where to find pop rivets and he said "what is a pop rivet?" This is literally true.

Not long afterward Home Depot came to town and hired a bunch of retired carpenters, plumbers etc. You can usually find some good advice there. I don't like Home Depot because their prices are high, quality is low (especially lumber) and I have to drive 10 miles to get to the store, then walk another 10 miles to find anything.
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