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07-25-2006, 09:52 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville
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Architect's view...?
A few weekends ago my son-law (Cal, Berkeley and Yale grad, Master in Architecture) and I were returning from an errand and driving down my long (gravel) driveway. Parked perpendicular to and at the foot of the driveway is our shiny '66 Tradewind. Matt, my son-in-law suddenly blurted, "Boy, that Airstream sure classes up this place!" I laughed.....but now a few weeks have passed and I now wonder wha..............?
Neil.
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07-25-2006, 10:44 PM
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2007 25' Safari FB SE
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1974 29' Ambassador
Yucca Valley
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Location: 1963 26' Overlander
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Quote:
Originally Posted by anholman
wha..............?
Neil.
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Neil, don't wonder, just enjoy!
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07-25-2006, 11:09 PM
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Rivet Master
Corpus Christi
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I think you have to understand how architects are trained and how they see things. Architects are trained to see a site or location as an integrated series of elements which come together to create a total composition. Everything from the drive to the entry to the planting to living or activity spaces combine to create a total composition. When the design is very well done, the result will be life enhancing and a true joy to behold and be a part of.
Unless the Airstream can blend in and contribute to the composition, an Architect will see it as something which detracts which in the purest sense, it likely does. It doesn't mean you can't or don't enjoy the Airstream, only that it detracts from the beauty of the site and the planned and built environment.
Of course there is the aesthetic philosophy which sees items which are more utilitarian and serviceable as being inherently beautiful. That's likely the feeling most of us have for our Airstreams.
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07-26-2006, 12:01 AM
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a.k.a. Ambassador Tim
1960 28' Ambassador
Northern
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Quote:
"Boy, that Airstream sure classes up this place!"
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Reminds me of an old SNL skit where they were running a nuclear reactor. The head scientist was leaving for vacation. Just before he left he said "Remember, you can never put too much water in the reactor."
Of course the joke was they did not know if they should only use a little water or keep putting water in. At the end of the skit the scientist was at the beach and the reactor blew up in the background
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07-26-2006, 05:30 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
Currently Looking...
New Orleans
, Louisiana
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Thompson
I think you have to understand how architects are trained and how they see things.
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Of course he meant the addition of the Airstream tied all the elements of your property into one gorgeous canvas which no passer by could resist passing a complementary comment about.
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07-26-2006, 06:42 AM
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Mellon head
2000 30' Excella
Ballwin
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Originally Posted by Bob Thompson
I agree with Mr. Thompson, although not in such eloquent prose. I can only wonder just how many of we architects own Aluminum Palaces.
KES
B-Arch, 1960, Carnegie Tech
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07-26-2006, 08:24 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
1977 31' Excella 500
Berkeley Springs
, West Virginia
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It's all about the sight lines!
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07-26-2006, 08:33 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
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Count us in...
Quote:
Originally Posted by K E Stabler
I can only wonder just how many of we architects own Aluminum Palaces.
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Mr.InsideOut is an Architect & I am an Interior Designer.
Shari
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07-26-2006, 02:02 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 25' Tradewind
North Vancouver
, British Columbia
Join Date: Feb 2006
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I'm an Architect and happen to think that the 24' tradewind in my back yard, complete with it's own patio and landscaping, is beautiful! Sadly, some Architects can be a little opinionated and aren't afraid to voice their aesthitic preferences
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07-26-2006, 02:29 PM
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Tom, the Uber Disney Fan
2006 30' Safari
Orlando
, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K E Stabler
I agree with Mr. Thompson, although not in such eloquent prose. I can only wonder just how many of we architects own Aluminum Palaces.
KES
B-Arch, 1960, Carnegie Tech
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I also own one!
B-Arch, Auburn University, Class of '85
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07-26-2006, 02:38 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
Currently Looking...
New Orleans
, Louisiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimGolden
It's all about the sight lines!
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This works for me.
Jim
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07-26-2006, 03:21 PM
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Rivet Master
Corpus Christi
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Count me as one of the architects who's glad most architects are opinionated! For me, it's the very nature of design to express opinions in form and substance. I can't even imagine being an architect without expressing an opinion from the most basic thought like how wide to make the driveway to how to shape an entry to what colors to use. Architecture is the mother of all art and when it is done well, it brings a magic to life, a joy and exuberance which is nearly universal in the human experience. An example is Frank Lloyd Wright's Taliesan West. Also, I can still remember the impact Arthur Erickson had on my appreciation of design. What delightful places he created!
When designers are afraid to express their opinion, then our world becomes mundane. And I haven't even touched on the subject of quality. If we fail to express an opinion on quality, then poor craftsmanship and shoddy construction become the norm.
The young architect from Yale is to be admired. Just getting thru architecture school is a major accomplishment. The drop out rate is incredibly high, and only the most dedicated make it. Given a chance, he might bring great new creations for all of us to enjoy and appreciate. Attempt to see the world as he envisions it and you might enrich your own life more than you know.
From the 1st post, we can't tell if the Airstream enhanced the site like a sparkling jewel, maybe like a beautifully restored Packard would if it were setting in the driveway. Or if it detracted from the site, perhaps it needs an RV-port!
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07-26-2006, 03:36 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
1979 30' Argosy
Armada
, Michigan
Join Date: May 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Safari Tim
Reminds me of an old SNL skit where they were running a nuclear reactor. The head scientist was leaving for vacation. Just before he left he said "Remember, you can never put too much water in the reactor."
Of course the joke was they did not know if they should only use a little water or keep putting water in. At the end of the skit the scientist was at the beach and the reactor blew up in the background
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Ah, one of my favorite skits! Was this also the one where Garret Morris was dressed up as the cleaning lady and he made out with Dan Akroyd done up as Jimmy Carter? Woot.
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07-26-2006, 04:24 PM
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Rivet Master
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I think all of you are missing the real issue. It has very little to do with being an architect, and lots to do with being a son-in-law.
Neil, I think you are right to wonder if the young man who married your daughter was complimenting your airstream, or denigrating the condition of the rest of the property. Ask him for suggestions about how to "class up" the rest of the place.
I have 3 sons-in-law. You need to put a stop to the insubordination.
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07-26-2006, 05:05 PM
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Rivet Master
1951 21' Flying Cloud
1960 24' Tradewind
Folsom
, California
Join Date: Dec 2003
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When I'm elected President there'll be 2 Airstreams in every yard . . . whoops, wrong thread . . .
For now I have to settle on being an Architect (who loves airstreams - I think it's the end caps, whether it's 13, 7, 5, 3 . . . paneled, airstream always seams to get the geometry just right).
B-Arch, U of Oregon
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07-26-2006, 05:53 PM
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Rivet Master
Tonka Bay
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Dang! I had a long gravel driveway and a 1971 vintage Airstream parked perpendicular at the base, but I paved the driveway and sold the Airstream, yet I am an architect.
B-Arch 1968 University of Cincinnati and an architect in IN, IL, MI, KY, MN, OK, LA, TX, WY, MT and AZ.
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2015 Sprinter Class B Camper Van
(Former 1971 vintage Airstream Owner)
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07-26-2006, 07:37 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 Argosy 24
now being enjoyed by Heath and Mary in
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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Timeless Design
Bob Thompson’s words reminded me of the year ago morning when I was looking for breakfast in downtown Mason City, Iowa and came across Frank Lloyd Wright’s 1920’s PARK INN being restored.
I was stunned to realize that this 80 year old building looked like it had been designed yesterday.
That’s what the best of good design achieves I think, TIMELESSNESS.
Airstream and its early aluminum competitors, Frank Lloyd Wright’s magnificent buildings, all of these have the quality of enduring beauty.
I have a Knoll chair designed by Erno Saarinen in 1946 (that I bought new in the 1970’s) that still looks like it could have been designed last month.
All these examples show us that we don’t need to be architects or designers to be effected by their best work.
Sergei
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07-26-2006, 09:45 PM
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Rivet Master
1951 21' Flying Cloud
1960 24' Tradewind
West Coast
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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My interpretation of the SIL's comment is that he was being subtle about volunteering to spruce up the rest of the place. I think the only honourable thing to do would be to invite him back out and put him to work. He'll be very appreciative of your ability to pick up on his hint, and probably enjoy coming back out often to work on the place for you. Or, he may just stop making suggestions. Either way you win!
Barry
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07-27-2006, 10:21 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by safari57
My interpretation of the SIL's comment is that he was being subtle about volunteering to spruce up the rest of the place. I think the only honourable thing to do would be to invite him back out and put him to work. He'll be very appreciative of your ability to pick up on his hint, and probably enjoy coming back out often to work on the place for you. Or, he may just stop making suggestions. Either way you win!
Barry
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My wife and I couldn't ask for a better son-in-law. Our daughter done good. They live 2 1/2 hours drive away so we see them often. His father lives a few minutes from us and he has done some project drawings for him. I have only asked him to help with occassional handyman projects to which he helps exceedingly well. He IS very impressed with the Airstream. I suppose we should invite him, daughter, grandson and the new one on the way for a camping outting. Do ya think? I will pass the thread and all your replies on to him as I know he will appreciate them.
Neil.
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07-28-2006, 06:39 PM
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Rivet Master
Tonka Bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by anholman
My wife and I couldn't ask for a better son-in-law.
Neil.
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But of course, he is an architect.
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2015 Sprinter Class B Camper Van
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