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Old 05-15-2009, 09:17 PM   #15
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Old 05-23-2009, 08:43 PM   #16
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Well, by now most know if a dealer near them is packing up shop. Much to my surprise, none of the remaining GM dealers within a 15 mile radius from me are going away from what I've heard. What I found shocking is that I have roughly 6 Chevy dealers within a 12 mile radius and all are still here and 12 GM dealerships total within a 15 miles radius(including the 6 Chevy dealers). Three Chevy dealers are within 5 miles of my door, two of them are less than 5 miles apart. I thought for sure one or two would have been mothballed or consolidated, but nope. Kind of glad, lots of jobs at these dealers and of course competition keeps the prices honest.
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The sole GM dealer in my hometown (Darrow's) got a pink slip last week. They're going to try selling used cars and service for now. This is the only GM dealer in the area.
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The sole GM dealer in my hometown (Darrow's) got a pink slip last week. They're going to try selling used cars and service for now. This is the only GM dealer in the area.

This is the part I don't get, but then far smarter people (I think) have made the decisions.

I know this is a major metro area, but to have 6 Chevy dealers in a 12 mile radius and two in less than 5 miles, yet areas where there is no such saturation gets their only dealer yanked. Dunno what Darrow's sales volumes were or there customer sat ratings GM collects, but I heard many dealers who were making profits and good ratings got pink slips, some where there are no other GM dealers for miles and miles around. I mean I like having choices, but 12 GM dealers (mostly Chevy) in a 15 mile radius? It's almost as bad as McDonald's or Walgreens...you can't go 10 miles without passing 5. Seriously, in a 5 mile radius, I have 4 Walgreens and 4 McDonald's too. Guess with all those triple bypasses and angioplasties, you gotta get your post-op meds handy.
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What I don't understand is how does it help GM to shut down dealers. Aren't the dealers owned privately and stopping them from selling is helping them how???
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Old 05-23-2009, 09:26 PM   #20
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This is the part I don't get, but then far smarter people (I think) have made the decisions.

I know this is a major metro area, but to have 6 Chevy dealers in a 12 mile radius and two in less than 5 miles, yet areas where there is no such saturation gets their only dealer yanked. Dunno what Darrow's sales volumes were or there customer sat ratings GM collects, but I heard many dealers who were making profits and good ratings got pink slips, some where there are no other GM dealers for miles and miles around.
The closest GM dealer is in another town about 20 miles away, and the next closest one is 55 miles away, in another state.
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Old 05-23-2009, 09:31 PM   #21
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What I don't understand is how does it help GM to shut down dealers. Aren't the dealers owned privately and stopping them from selling is helping them how???

I can see the additional costs of maintaining a dealer network, but you are right, those dealers need to produce and buy parts, machines and cars from GM. I could see if they were not doing all that well, but as I said earlier, some dealers I heard of from both the Chrysler camps and the GM camps, not all were not doing poorly.

I couldn't imagine traveling 20 or 55 miles to get to a dealer-- one way, meaning a 40 or 110 mile round trip, particularly if the issue is not solved the first time. If you are talking a tow vehicle that gets maybe 19 mpg, the closest dealer (20 miles) would cost you in today's gas prices about $10 round trip.
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I think there was some inside information given out; our local Chev/GMC dealer bailed out months ago without any reason.
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I think there was some inside information given out; our local Chev/GMC dealer bailed out months ago without any reason.
It was widely believed by some and possibly known by others that GM had a buy out program last year. Two Chevy dealers nearby closed suddenly and without warning. Before these two closed, I had 4 Chevy dealers in about a 4 mile radius.
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Does anyone suspect political motivation in closing choices made by GM?
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Dealer closing list from GMInside news

GM Dealer Closing List (Letter Received):

Classic Pontiac Cadillac GMC Anniston AL
Norman Blackmon Motors Greenville AL
Abercrombie Chevrolet Hartselle AL
Susan Schein Chevrolet Pelham AL
Colonial Chevrolet Buick Talladega AL
Keeton Motor Buick Pontiac GMC Fordyce AR
Guatney Pontiac Buick GMC Little Rock AR
Firebaugh Chevrolet Firebaugh CA
Tri Pontiac Buick Hemet CA
Don Signer Buick-Cadillac Newark CA
Mazzei's GMC Pittsburgh CA
Hatfield Buick GMC Redlands CA
Seaside Buick Ponitac GMC San Diego CA
Daniels Chevyland Colorado Springs CO
Tri-County GM Lajunta CO
Hajek Chevrolet Longmount CO
Wile Motors Columbia CT
Jim Douglas Chevrolet High Springs FL
Coggin Chevrolet Kissimmee FL
Coggin Pontiac Buick GMC Kissimmee FL
Lehman Pontiac Buick GMC Miami FL
Pines Pontiac Buick GMC Pembroke Pines FL
Pat Fischer Chevrolet Titusville FL
Moore Pontiac Buick GMC Canton GA
Chuck Clancy Auto Group Chevrolet Cartersville GA
Frank Andrews Chevrolet Dublin GA
Stokes Hodges Chevrolet Buick Pontiac GMC Thomson GA
Windward Chevrolet Kaneohe HI
Larry Miller Pontiac Buick GMC Caldwell ID
R.L. Reising Sales Beecher IL
Wagoner Buick Pontiac GMC Inc. Belleville IL
Wolf Chevrolet Belvidere IL
Bruckerts Chevrolet Bethalto IL
Rust Chevrolet Cissna Park IL
D'Andrea Buick Pontiac GMC Chicago IL
Roseland Pontiac Chicago IL
Reichert Chevrolet Buick Pontiac Crystal Lake IL
Tom Sparks DeKalb IL
Heaton Chevrolet Pittsfield IL
Zimmerman Bros. Pontiac GMC Buick Pittsfield IL
Ken Nelson Auto Mall (GMC/Cadillac lines terminated) Sterling IL
Reichert Chevrolet Buick Pontiac Woodstock IL
Gene Reeg Motor Sales Columbia City IN
Bob Wysong Chevrolet Pontiac Cormwell IN
Don Ayres Pontiac GMC Fort Wayne IN
Mendenhall-Roy Chevrolet Inc. Grabill IN
Preferred Chevrolet Pontiac LaGrange IN
Meyer GMC Trucks Inc. North Manchester IN
Charlie Roberts Chevrolet Buick Rensselaer IN
Hubler Chevrolet Shelbyville IN
Olesen Chevrolet Avoca IA
Don's Chevrolet Ida Grove IA
Nuebel Chevrolet LeMars IA
Condon Auto Sales Sioux City IA
Hoak Motors Sioux City IA
Krueger Auto & Truck Villa Waverly IA
Crown Automotive Lawrence KS
Warta Buick Salina KS
Merle Snider Motors Chevrolet Buick Pontiac Cadillac Winfield KS
Mountain City Chevrolet Inez KY
Springhurst Chevrolet Louisville KY
Epp's Chevrolet Middleboro KY
Alex Montgomery Chevrolet Mount Washington KY
Ricky Smith GMC Weymouth MA
Fox Pontiac Buick GMC Alpine Township MI
Fox Motors Charlevoix MI
Holiday Chevrolet Farmington Hills MI
Courtesy Chevrolet Ontonagon MI
Victor George Chevrolet Lapeer MI
Walser Buick Pontiac GMC Bloomington MN
Swenson Motor Company (GMC) Benson/Willmar MN
Adams Chevrolet Belton MO
Royal Automotive Fulton MO
Riley Cadillac Jefferson City MO
Pete Paris Chevrolet Monroe City MO
Courtesy Chevrolet Buick Booneville MS
Scarff Auto Center (Pontiac GMC Buick) Kalispell MT
Headwaters Pontiac GMC Buick Livingston MT
Headwaters Pontiac GMC Buick Three Folks MT
Offutt Motors (Chevrolet, Pontiac, Buick) Lisbon ND
Paul Spady Buick Hastings NE
St. Paul Equipment GMC St. Paul NE
Autoserv of Laconia Buick Pontiac GMC Belmont NH
Poulin Auto Country Chevrolet Rochester NH
Quality Motor Co. Las Vegas NM
Miler Chevrolet Lordsburg NM
Scott Nichols Motors Silver City NM
Friday Motors Taos NM
Salisbury Chevrolet Glenville NY
Rose Buick Pontiac GMC Gloversville NY
Patire Chevrolet Buick Hoosick Falls NY
Rea Buick Port Jarvis NY
Matthews Chevrolet Brilliant OH
Dallas Automotive Group Jackson OH
Bigelow Chevrolet Parma OH
Eisenhour Motor Sales Chevrolet Pemberville OH
Moomaw Chevrolet Sugarcreek OH
Brown Pontiac Sylvania Township OH
Bill Cross of Performance Auto Group Woster OH
City Chevrolet Oklahoma City OK
Brackeen Motors Buick Pontiac GMC Shawnee OK
Bob Thomas Chevrolet Cadillac Bend OR
Randy Jones Chevrolet Corvallis OR
Dave Hamilton Chevrolet Redmond OR
JL Freed Pontiac Cadillac Lansdale PA
Videon Chevrolet Newton Square PA
Walker Chevrolet Sandy Lake PA
Williams Auto Group Sayre PA
Hasay Chevrolet Shickshinny PA
Henna Chevrolet Cadillac Aiken SC
Raceway Chevrolet Pontiac Buick GMC Lake City SC
Johnson Motor Company Buick Pontiac GMC Graniteville SC
Nourse Interstate Automall Chevrolet Buick Pontiac Richburg SC
Olsen Implement GMC Huron SD
LaRoche Pontiac Buick GMC Brenham TX
Forrest Chevrolet Cadillac Buick Pontiac GMC Cleburne TX
Don Helms Chevrolet Graham TX
Red McCombs Superior Pontiac GMC San Antonio TX
Carlisle Chevrolet Cadillac Waxahachie TX
Team Chevrolet Smyrna TN
Painter Chevrolet Pontiac Nephi UT
Barber Brothers Chevrolet Spanish Fork UT
Boyd Chevrolet South Hill VA
Brighton Garage Chevrolet Island Pond VT
Wells River Chevrolet Wells River VT
Lewis River Motor Co. Chevrolet Woodland WA
Bob Hall GMC Yakima WA
Glen Dale Chevrolet Glen Dale WV
Midway Motors Harman WV
Joe Romeo's Kingwood WV
American Chevrolet Mannington WV
Apple Valley Chevrolet Martinsburg WV
Bell Chevrolet Sistersville WV
Spencer Auto Group Spencer WV
Johnson Sales Chevrolet Arlington WI
Tom's Chevrolet Cornell WI
Ernie Von Schledorn Chevrolet Pontiac Cadillac Mayville WI
Broadway GM Pittsfield WI


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Stats:
  • Currently 138 dealers on our list.
  • It appears urban and rural dealers were effected.
  • Chevrolet, Cadillac, Pontiac, Buick, GMC, and Saturn stores all had closings on the list.
  • Hummer and Saab stores were not effected thus far.
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Looks like the little Chevy dealer in our town got the ax. He's on the list of 138. A shame, I heard they were the oldest Chevy dealer in the state of Florida.
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Old 05-24-2009, 07:54 AM   #27
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GM to shut down 2600
2600 X Average number of employees per dealership 53 = 137,800 lost jobs

Chrysler to shut down 890
890 X Average number of employees per dealership 53 = 47,170 lost jobs

Average sales per dealership $33.4 million x 3490 (GM and Chrysler closed dealerships) = $116,556,000,000

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Thanks for posting the list. Looks to me that about 35% of the posted GM list were lost in the Midwest alone.
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