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Old 09-25-2009, 10:59 PM   #15
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. . . the wabbit is wise . . .

Boaters often have bunks with mattresses over a "sealed" area i.e. the V-Berth. The compartment is sealed, usually to keep the sea water out. A google search of "dry bunk" yields a number of solutions offered to boaters to keep the under area of their mattress dry & mildew free. These products range from an absorbent pad to an elaborate grid work frame (chicken wire?)

Lack of air circulation under a bunk results in excess dampness (& you don't even have to sleep in the bunk to have this occur!)

We stripped out the carpet & plastic in the back storage area of our 34', then applied penetrating epoxy to seal the plywood surface. Much easier to clean out!

Just think about those boaters & what may lurk under their bunks

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Old 09-26-2009, 02:07 AM   #16
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can you get the "hermetically sealed" option or is that only offered with the funeral coach models?

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Old 09-26-2009, 09:28 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by 2airishuman View Post
i 4 got to mention the barking spiders...

they need an exit route too.

Ahh the ever elusive Barking Spider. Never seen, butt often heard, and usually evidenced by their foul breath. We've tried unsucessfuly to have them eradicated, with no luck.

Thanks goodness for fantastic fans.

Funny thing...We have a similar issue with ducks around hear. Every once in a while someone steps on one. We hear it, but never see it either. Same bad breath though.

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Old 09-26-2009, 03:14 PM   #18
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Some of this reminds me of my 6 and 8 year old nephews who visited a couple years ago. While discussing where they would sleep, I suggested pitching a tent in the back yard, thinking it would be a great adventure.
Response was : " eeeuuww, yuck, there are bugs out there."
Let's face it, even Howard Hughes could not keep bug free. They outnumber us by an unimaginable number.
You might try traveling with a couple of cats as we do. At least they teach the bugs to keep out of sight. However if you are also afraid of cats, that's another problem. Perhaps, we need universal service, so everyone would get to spend a few nights in a fox hole. Even if the the rear trunk doesn't keep out spiders, I hope it would keep out the bear who bit a few holes in our sewer hose a couple years ago. But I guess the diet of bears is a whole new thread.
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Old 09-26-2009, 06:56 PM   #19
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the bear thread.
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Old 09-26-2009, 06:59 PM   #20
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Dangerous camping

Our utility door is on the side and I would have to cut myself in half to get in there to open the door. I could kidnap a child, but he'd have to be pretty strong to lift the bed.

But that is not the worst problem. The door stays open while we take things out and put them in. We were recently in NM where we saw tarantulas (it's mating season now, so they're looking around for some action, the males not knowing the females sometimes eat them afterward). We didn't see scorpions, but they are there.

Everyone knows tarantulas and scorpions are a lot like us—they like aluminum and will jump into the door and wait for us to go to sleep and eat their way through the converter. The tarantulas, sex crazed as they are, "attack" us while we dream. The scorpions wait in our shoes to sting us when we jump out of bed screaming after the tarantulas try to have sex with us.

Camping sure is tough in the southwest.

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Old 09-26-2009, 07:20 PM   #21
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Ewwwee! New Mexico is off my list now. 2Air thanks for reminding me I am afraid of things under my bed reaching out and grabbing my feet or hands should they inadvertantly hang over.

There are bugs all over one time or another. They hardly need much room or incentive, but I don't put outside stuff under the bed, that would definitely help your situation I think. Cap the tubes or stuff the ends and wipe off the legs and inspect for creatures or better yet leave that stuff outside. I bring in the grill and chairs and table but I don't think I brought bugs and dirt in with them, they go in the closet, under the dinette, and in the zip dee storage compartment. Under the bed I put clothes and storage items that are not used frequently. Perhaps your best defense is to choose what you want to put in the bottom of your nest and sleep with a cat. I agree with Ken. I love our dogs, but cats are very good hunters.

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Old 09-26-2009, 11:26 PM   #22
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a nearly universal childhood fear...

WHO (or what) is under the bed?

seen that horror flick where the KNIFE comes UP through the bed?

or the one where the bogey man grabs and drags the screaming teen down under?

i think THAT is the issue here,

not an 8 legged creepy crawly fuzzy bug eyed thing, that paralyzes then SUCKS your brains out...

sleep well.

That's why you sleep with your sixgun under your pillow, right?

Hey, 2air,

Great to see you back!
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Old 09-27-2009, 01:39 AM   #23
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Have to laugh about a in West Texas....are spider are the least to worry about.....would it not be more easy to simply clean your items your going to put into the storage area under your bed.....?....I agree....your headed for some moisture problems....just as we have to breathe does a home....or a home away from home.............just a thought...
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OK, in order to fix the potential moisture problem, I will put a nice big vent in the middle of the board I put in to seal off the under bed area.

The vent will have a screen, the screen will be small to keep critters out.

This vent will allow a huge amout of fresh dry air to consistantly flow in and out from under my bed.

Then there will be no mold, mildew, moisture or critters.........

Design glitch complete.

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Old 09-27-2009, 09:23 AM   #25
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For us, we only store in the trunk very minimal needs such as walbernize, misc lubes, possibly an extra shore power cord and the little things when setting up. I find our truck takes most of the normal outside things like hoses, power cord, chairs, wheel blocks etc. They get dirty and that is what the truck is for, sealed with hard cover and locked. A/S outside storage when compared to other RV designs, well, is just no comparison. There really is none. So it makes a decision at least for us to have a truck vs SUV or van a no brainer. That little trunk on our 28 is just that, TINY!
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Old 09-27-2009, 09:43 AM   #26
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We have a Bambi. Almost everything is stored in the truck (with cap). This thread has inspired me to finally fix that gap where the plumbing exits from under the bed. I hadn't considered the ventilation function. I only use the trunk for water hoses, which I keep zipped up in nylon duffle bags, a jack, some plumbing supplies, and the essential (Airstream recommended) tool box.
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...Design glitch complete....
the screen is a good idea rather than a solid barrier.

but don't think this SOLVES the moisture issue, or critter thing (seen the 1000 threads on mice yet?)

have you been camping yet in your new 'stream, or any solid side rv?

even without using the mattress, moisture will collect under it, along the wall or behind the sofa and dinette...

because of the temperature differential (like condensation on windows) in those tight places.

we deal with this issue continuously and in your home state it's especially problematic; rocky top is one really moist place!

here are 2 of the many threads on this problem. we can only hope to keep at it and manage water, mold, mildew and critters.

without regular efforts they (natures creations) ALL win eventually.

to add some clarity, the o.p. is dealing with a space similar to the pic below under a queen size bed...

with an outside hatch door ~ 4 feet wide and 1 foot tall.

the twin bed versions have 2 smaller storage areas with side hatches.

for the many small outer hatches and openings for wiring, plumbing, gas lines, the fridge, the furnace and so on...

fresh gaskets, proper sealant goo or aluminum wool, or chunks of foam, or scotch brite pads or duct tape or aluminum tape can help.

just consider that EACH of those gaps work both ways and some of the openinga NEED to vent well...

a/s would like us to believe the rough cut, jagged holes and sloppy gaps are part of the carefully crafted assembly...

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Old 09-27-2009, 01:06 PM   #28
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My method of keeping that sort of thing out of my storage areas (which are hard to clean) is to clean things before I put them away.

I have some cheap white gym towels of varying sizes. When I pack up, I carry around one of the hand-sized towels and wipe down everything before it goes in. Doesn't take much time, and you never have to worry about straggling critters and dirt. I also use it to dry the dew from water hoses and the electrical cord.


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