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Old 07-14-2004, 01:03 PM   #15
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I'm stupid

MH = Motor Home. Duh.
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Old 07-14-2004, 01:06 PM   #16
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The Tag # under the hatch is V24D4V0219

In one of the shots you can see where the duals have rubbed the underside of the wheel well...from cabinets or just overloaded? who knows I guess.

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MH-motor home

It started life as a 74 side bath according to the serial number. My sn is 0217 so they weren't built very far apart.

I don't think the tires rubbed there, your springs wouldn't have been able to flex that much and the axle bumper would stop it. If I am missing something check it very carefully because that is an awful lot of vertical movement.

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Old 07-14-2004, 01:18 PM   #17
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Hey John, Thanks for all the help so far, this is preceless to me!!

Yeah the more I look at it and the more I think about it I agree that that is not from touching tires. I did notice that until I looked at the pictures on my computer...so I can't look closely at the the marks themselves. I think it is just road-spray or something similar.

I'm calling around about loans. Now it's getting scary!

I will keep you all posted. And more advice is always nice!! heh.
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Old 07-14-2004, 01:27 PM   #18
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The exterior looks great...I was surprised to see the quality level of the striping, and paint, also interior. Could be a real find if it runs out as well...I would not be afraid of the peeling paint, and the box that sags. They could be the smaller of the projects needed.
As you can tell from this forum, even the nicest of our units took a lot of elbow grease to get up to where we felt comfortable driving and staying in them. Once you get past that point of the initial repairs, it becomes a matter of staying on top of the maintenance to hopefully head off future disapointments, especially those that happen unforseen and on the road.
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Old 07-14-2004, 01:39 PM   #19
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Ohh yeah about the tires, I think they are just dusty. Those are poor pictures. The tires are in better shape than the ones on my car! No cracks, even tread-wear, no sun damage. It is parked in a dirt (or should I say dust) lot.
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Old 07-14-2004, 02:16 PM   #20
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I'm calling around about loans. Now it's getting scary!

I will keep you all posted.
Now it is getting fun!! Besides it is already an antique (in MI at least), looks to be in good condition (much better than mine when I got it), and probably the only tax axle Argosy in existence.

Do keep us posted, it is kind of neat to see all the combinations and permutations these went/go through.

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Old 07-14-2004, 03:06 PM   #21
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You need to pass if you have to borrow money to buy it. This is not the kind of item you use credit for. Wait. Save. Pay cash. There will be more airstream motorhomes to buy later.

There's going to be things to repair no matter how nice the rest looks. If you don't do significant wrench turning greasy repair work yourself, you're gonna spend another $5000 to fix, replace, upgrade the non obvious items. For example, tires are $125 each, not yet mounted or balanced for a cheap brand. AC work is expensive. And that's only scratches the surface. There's an old post from last year somewhere on this forum listing all the various P30 chasis items we typically had to replace when we bought ours.

When I bought mine the previously owner advertised it as great condition, drive it anywhere. He believed it because he did not know anybetter. It really did look good and ran with most stuff functioning. I bought it expecting to have some repairs to do. I actually replaced alot of engine and chasis components (84,000 on chasis, 40,000k on engine and tranny at purchase). Fortunately did all the work myself so was out only an additional $1000 or so for parts. And unexpected stuff still turns up to fix.
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I have to second IPM's post.

The fact that the current owner allowed the insurance to expire or canceled it tells me it has not been used in a while. The lack of use causes a myriad of troubles that will not necessarily make themselves apparent on initial inspection.

Unless you go to the local loan sharks most banks will not touch anything this old, let alone a custom job that cannot be defined from a value standpoint. Home equity line of credit would be the best way to do it, but be sure to get it for 3-5K over the purchase price just in case you need it.

You need to go into this expecting that there will be at the least one costly repair.
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Oh wow...

I had a mental picture of a cobbled-up, spliced-in motorhome-looking thing. I gotta say that this one is a marvel! It looks like it's been well cared for. If the mechanicals are in as good a shape as the body and interior, and you can get it for anything reasonable, I think it'd probably be quite a buy!

I have to agree on the bit about financing though. You can hardly find anyone to finance a mid-80s coach that has book value, much less a '70s coach that is custom built with no book value listed for it. You won't be able to find a commercial lender who'll touch this with a 10 foot pole, unless you can find private money somewhere.

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You need to go into this expecting that there will be at the least one costly repair.
Now, Brett... whatever would make you think that?

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Now, Brett... whatever would make you think that?

Roger

I remember a discussion I had with my dear wife not seconds before I hit the submit button on the Ebay bid that won us our current motorhome. We discussed the "worst" that could happen and decided that even if the engine blew up we would still be willing to do what it took to get this unit home and redone to our liking.

Be careful what you say.

The Big Guy must have been listening to that little discussion and decided to test our resolve. ( Yes, Mr Goodwrench, so how much is a Crate motor?) So be careful where you set your personal $$ threshold.
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Old 07-14-2004, 06:50 PM   #26
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........discussed the "worst" that could happen and decided that even if the engine blew up we would still be willing to do what it took to get this unit home and redone to our liking.
Be careful what you say.
......So be careful where you set your personal $$ threshold.
Several active Forum members have stated, in various ways, that ownership is an invitation to spend more money............

Hi, my name is 87MH, and I am addicted to spending money on my Airstream Motor Home.

Just from the pics (good shots, BTW), I can see certain areas I know you will want to "improve" -- saggy wood, carpet, paint touchup.

More than any project I have undertaken, the MoHo redo turned into a "while I'm at it" exponential list of things to "fix"......while I have the carpet out I might as well fix the saggy floor....while I have the old tires replaced I might as well replace the brakes...the old brake lines....totally change the fluid while I'm bleeding the brakes.....and so on, and so on, and so on..................ad infinitum.


But, if you enjoy working on such things yourself....(for me it's therapy).....by all means - Go for it!!!

Take the advice of others on the Forum who have been there and done that already....anticipate a fair amount of cash for "immediate" things......

and then double your high side estimate.......at least.

Happy Airstreaming!!!!!
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Old 07-15-2004, 06:23 AM   #27
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Hey thank you for the honest advice/opinion! This is the kind of thing I need to hear. I am far from apposed to doing 90% of the work myself; I can swing most repairs for a lot of vehicles but I admit this is probably the biggest endeavor I have taken on as far as chassis size/engine size/unknown territory. Cosmetics are easy, and I am in no hurry to make the thing glisten and shine; I just want it to run right and drive right...the rest can happen as needed I suppose. We'll see, I know that my own estimated time tables will get thrown out of whack as soon as I pick it up and drive it the 2 hours back home...I'll probably notice a "tick" or "click" or some other odd noise and find myself shoulder deep in an a 454 in no time!

At least I have lots of family help (professional mechanic, Electrical engineer, safety inspector, interior designer (my wife likes this one! heh), etc. etc.)!

Thanks again for the advice! If anyone has any more please let me know! I'll listen! I will be sure to post here what my findings are as soon as they come up.

Ohh yeah and as far as finances go, I have the money and at this time I have about $1,200 surplus that I plan on throwing at it as needed... after that I may have to borrow (banks or family or line of credit).

thanks!
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Tools...

Oh, and Logan...

I hope you either have a Sears store close at hand, or know your local Snap-On tool guy REALLY well! For starters, I'd sure recommend a 3/4" drive socket set, and make sure you have the appropriate wrenches from 1" up... a 10 ton floor jack is good... You should also find a ready dealer for gallons and gallons of WD40; other solvents as necessary; fluids, heater hose by the yard etc. etc. You should also probably check with the EPA to ensure that you won't need a hazardous waste permit to dispose of the quantites of fluids you'll be draining...

Then, of course, you'll have EIGHT tires to replace, each one at the cost of a set of four for your car...

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