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Old 10-29-2013, 07:05 AM   #29
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Tire expense is just that, a maintenance expense. Other expenses include insurance, storage fees, dump fees, furnace repairs, water heater repairs, A/C repairs, etc.

Tires can have a decent service life if properly taken care of both when stored (covered for sun protection and off the ground on a board so the pavement does not degrade the rubber) and checked often when on the road for proper inflation and road damage.

The collateral damage to an Airstream trailer from running an older tire to the point of failure can far exceed the cost of the tire and the insurance deductible becomes another expense even if it pays for the majority of the damage repair expense.

I replaced the airplane tires long before they were worn out as preventative maintenance. I plan to replace the 16" Michelins early rather than later or after a failure.

This Airstream camping is an expensive hobby as compared to tent camping. If one can not afford to do preventative maintenance, perhaps they bought into the idea that the initial cost was the only cash outlay.

Perhaps a less expensive version of the camping hobby that is more budget friendly needs to be considered.
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Old 10-29-2013, 07:20 AM   #30
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Expense, is why most of us on this forum buy used motor homes or trailers, so we try to save money buy stretching our dollar as far as possible. Anyone with enough money can go buy new but some of us do not.
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Old 10-29-2013, 07:42 AM   #31
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Agreed. Spending $2500 for 6 tires does not fit into my budget and I will need 9 tires to complete the change over. At that rate I would have to spend $3750 for the 9 tires mounted. For the few times a year I take the MH out on a trip I can't justify the added expense of high end tires that will do no better a job then the ones I'm getting. By the time I'm done I will still have spent close to $1500.
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:25 AM   #32
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We all have our budgeting priorities. But if a person (say) continues to smoke a pack of cigarettes every day, or spend $200 per month on TV and internet, but then run ancient tires at 70 mph on the freeway, I would have some issues with that person's assessment of priority. And it's not just the RV driver who puts him or herself at risk by this, it is potentially whoever is in the vehicle with you and other road users too, should a tire fail at high speed, which is when they usually do.

Having said that, any tire sold by a reputable dealer should meet all required federal and state safety standards, and I have such confidence in this that I always buy the cheapest big name brand RV tire I can. And the cheap RV tire will run that much smoother and more quietly than your 10 year old Michelin, believe me.
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:14 AM   #33
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Expense, is why most of us on this forum buy used motor homes or trailers, so we try to save money buy stretching our dollar as far as possible. Anyone with enough money can go buy new but some of us do not.
My initial budget for making transition from tent to hard wall camping was $25K. Boy did I blow through that! Buying an older coach has to be approached as a hobby and labor of love. I feel for those that get into it without the ability, desire, or time to do their own maintenance. I think having safe tires has to be a priority and should be considered as part of the initial cost. I also think a properly maintained tire can safely see 8 to 10 years of service and you don't have to buy the most expensive tires to be safe.
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:48 AM   #34
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Hi, rich or poor, tires are quite expensive now days, especially for a motorhome. I just bought two for my trailer and it cost more than $300.00 for them. In the old days blow outs were caused by an old tire being worn into the cords; We could actually wear a tire out back then. Now they just fly apart and the owners get the blame.

(1.) This tire was still in use on a tour bus in Alaska.

(2.) This tire, in Alaska, was not longer in use.

(3.) I don't think the sewing machine works either.
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:01 AM   #35
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Ouch, that one will take a few plugs
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:11 AM   #36
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Nah, you can't put plugs in sidewalls.
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:11 PM   #37
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200 MPH Duct Tape should do it. Can't see taking the MH faster then that.
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:30 PM   #38
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[QUOTE=Punch;1373053]We all have our budgeting priorities. But if a person (say) continues to smoke a pack of cigarettes every day, or spend $200 per month on TV and internet, but then run ancient tires at 70 mph on the freeway, I would have some issues with that person's assessment of priority. And it's not just the RV driver who puts him or herself at risk by this, it is potentially whoever is in the vehicle with you and other road users too, should a tire fail at high speed, which is when they usually do.[QUOTE]

The tire completely failed at 6 years old. I understand that it may be near end of life, but this was not a gross misjudgment issue IMHO. I'm not entirely sure if the failure was due to age or a result of a puncture resulting in loss of air over time while driving. I felt a slight increase in steering vibration just before the tire blowout but no other signs of problems. Tires were visually inspected before leaving the race track.

I don't particularly appreciate being tagged as someone with dangerous priorities. I don't smoke and pay less then $39 on Internet. You might just hold that crap to yourself until you know whom your criticizing.
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I took it that he was speaking in general terms and not specifically too you. We all are capable of spending here when we should have been spending there.
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The tire completely failed at 6 years old. I understand that it may be near end of life, but this was not a gross misjudgment issue IMHO. I'm not entirely sure if the failure was due to age or a result of a puncture resulting in loss of air over time while driving. I felt a slight increase in steering vibration just before the tire blowout but no other signs of problems. Tires were visually inspected before leaving the race track.

I don't particularly appreciate being tagged as someone with dangerous priorities. I don't smoke and pay less then $39 on Internet. You might just hold that crap to yourself until you know whom your criticizing.
Actually I wasn't even thinking of you when I wrote that. Early on in this thread I wrote of a friend's brother in law and his expensive experience, and how that made me change my front tires. Those tires were on my AS when I bought it, and must have been about 8 years old, but I really hadn't given them a thought until I was told this story. I then went and looked closer at my tires and saw the crazing in the fronts and had them changed next day. It really changed my attitude towards RV tires, especially up here with deep cold and high UV, and I did some more research on tires too. If the MH sttod less of its time I also wouldn't worry so much, so it's the combination of standing and environmental conditions that make me especially aware. I have also made potentially costly judgement errors on tires, and only 3 years ago a tire I had run for far too long (almost 100k miles) on the front of my pickup simply burst ..... luckily with no other damage, but it had been stupid of me to keep that tire going so long.

So don't take things too personally. I regarded your post as a "public service" posting, and giving others the heads up about tires, and then the debate opened up. It's the people who think that their RV tires are safe when they are ten or 12 years old who should be mad at me!
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The tire completely failed at 6 years old. I understand that it may be near end of life, but this was not a gross misjudgment issue IMHO. I'm not entirely sure if the failure was due to age or a result of a puncture resulting in loss of air over time while driving. I felt a slight increase in steering vibration just before the tire blowout but no other signs of problems. Tires were visually inspected before leaving the race track.
If all the tires need to be replaced, and you can't afford to replace them all at once, start with the tires at the front end. A blowout on any tire is bad, but a blowout on the tires you steer with is more dangerous than a blowout on the drive wheels.

If it were up to me, EVERY time I replaced one pair of tires, I'd put the new ones on the front, and rotate the front tires back to the rear. But when they're not all on identical rims (like my Interstate where fronts don't match outer rears which don't match inner rears), that makes for a lot of extra work, so not everyone would necessarily make that same choice.
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Old 10-30-2013, 09:21 AM   #42
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In my case I plan to replace every tire over a 6 month period since all 8 axle mounted tires are the same age. The spare was actually a bit older then the rest and a different brand. Since all tires will be within 6 months of each other and the MH will not be driven 1 mile until all 8 are replaced I think rotation is not required in my case. With that said, I think your concept of keeping the fronts as new as possible makes great sense. The front tires are the most loaded and the most critical.

As I go about replacing all my tires I'm coming up with a little quandary. I clearly intend to replace the front tires first and, in my case all before the unit moves so the order of replacement is not relevant. For those considering replacing tires on a spread out schedule while still mobile, which tires should be replaced as next on the priority? Dually tires or TAG axle tires next? On the duallies, should all 4 tires be replace at one time or can they be replaced as pairs? Case in point both insides or outsides replaced first or left v/s right replaced as a pair. This assumes that the replacement tires will be the same size as the existing tires.
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