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Old 12-08-2014, 01:27 PM   #1
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Hi Folks,

I'm looking at purchasing a used AS motorhome (2005 Land Yacht 30' SO). Is the NADA pricing accurate (within reason) to determine if the asking price is a fair one?

Thanks so much!
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Old 12-08-2014, 03:31 PM   #2
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Depends heavily on the condition of the unit. Many small problems can really add up.
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It is a starting point, too many variables in older models. Notice most advertise no smokers or pets, but when you go to a rally and 80 percent have pets and in the south smokers are still around. Nada doesn't smell a unit, besides pet and smoker residue you can have poor plumbing sewer gases and leaking water mold and mildew. When I was looking I tried to figure out my top dollar to spend for a specific year, by the ads it would work but on inspection that one advertising a clean unit must have been blind and lost his sense of smell. One thing I saw on units overpriced and quoting Nada they didn't take into account Nada includes most std items and the owners added them on to the base price. If you find something not working, nice to know prices for replacement including labor. Good luck, you are looking at a great model year, I started looking at that year but could get the 5 yrs older model for 1/3 price and price was important to me.
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It is a starting point, too many variables in older models. Notice most advertise no smokers or pets, but when you go to a rally and 80 percent have pets and in the south smokers are still around. Nada doesn't smell a unit, besides pet and smoker residue you can have poor plumbing sewer gases and leaking water mold and mildew. When I was looking I tried to figure out my top dollar to spend for a specific year, by the ads it would work but on inspection that one advertising a clean unit must have been blind and lost his sense of smell. One thing I saw on units overpriced and quoting Nada they didn't take into account Nada includes most std items and the owners added them on to the base price. If you find something not working, nice to know prices for replacement including labor. Good luck, you are looking at a great model year, I started looking at that year but could get the 5 yrs older model for 1/3 price and price was important to me.
Thanks so much for your thoughts and for quickly responding. I like your ideas. And I completely understand regarding the "5 yr older-model better-price"!
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NADA is useless. I spent years looking and assessing, and found nothing complying. What I can tell you from my observations. The time to purchase motor homes from my observations is in the spring and fall. Late fall prices are the lowest year round, because people will part with them before needing to store them. Then in the spring the market is flooded as people take them out of storage and they have many little issues the owner does not want to deal with. However the initial prices on these can be sky high or fair. You will find they will sell predominately about the bottom 20% of the range you see on the market for their condition. The worst time to buy is the winter and summer. Winter because often they are winterized, and you cannot test all systems. For summer the seller is in no rush to sell and just wants to see how much they can get for it and usually are priced too high. Often times you can bid low and still get a response because people are tired of the headache the units cause. Even if they say no to your bid now, make sure to leave your name, number, and a solid price you would stand by. After a few weeks you might get a phone call. These were my observations from years of searching for the right unit.

-I determined the following:
1. Search Ebay for the unit you want
2. Searchtempest.com for the unit you want
3. RVT.com for the unit you want
-Use excel to record the year, make, model, vin, link, and price.
-Organize by Model, Price, and year.
-For each year record the price range, average price, and throw out any outliers in your data, then take the bottom 20 percentile of the range, and make that the fair price for the year.
-This per year fair price is your target for negotiations. At or below, you win, above and you loved the unit.

Take into account upgrades you would want to do, and research how much they cost, then if the unit has it, factor that into the price. (like solar, banks power pack, larger refrigerator, upgraded TVs, refurbished interior.

Then compare those prices to what you are willing to spend, and you can quickly qualify or disqualify years.
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NADA is useless. I spent years looking and assessing, and found nothing complying. What I can tell you from my observations. The time to purchase motor homes from my observations is in the spring and fall. Late fall prices are the lowest year round, because people will part with them before needing to store them. Then in the spring the market is flooded as people take them out of storage and they have many little issues the owner does not want to deal with. However the initial prices on these can be sky high or fair. You will find they will sell predominately about the bottom 20% of the range you see on the market for their condition. The worst time to buy is the winter and summer. Winter because often they are winterized, and you cannot test all systems. For summer the seller is in no rush to sell and just wants to see how much they can get for it and usually are priced too high. Often times you can bid low and still get a response because people are tired of the headache the units cause. Even if they say no to your bid now, make sure to leave your name, number, and a solid price you would stand by. After a few weeks you might get a phone call. These were my observations from years of searching for the right unit.

-I determined the following:
1. Search Ebay for the unit you want
2. Searchtempest.com for the unit you want
3. RVT.com for the unit you want
-Use excel to record the year, make, model, vin, link, and price.
-Organize by Model, Price, and year.
-For each year record the price range, average price, and throw out any outliers in your data, then take the bottom 20 percentile of the range, and make that the fair price for the year.
-This per year fair price is your target for negotiations. At or below, you win, above and you loved the unit.

Take into account upgrades you would want to do, and research how much they cost, then if the unit has it, factor that into the price. (like solar, banks power pack, larger refrigerator, upgraded TVs, refurbished interior.

Then compare those prices to what you are willing to spend, and you can quickly qualify or disqualify years.
Vycan, thanks for your great post! You've really learned a lot with your purchasing over the years. I can't tell you how much I appreciate you sharing all that you've learned. Fabulous suggestions! Thank you so very much!
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Hi Folks,

I'm looking at purchasing a used AS motorhome (2005 Land Yacht 30' SO). Is the NADA pricing accurate (within reason) to determine if the asking price is a fair one?

Thanks so much!
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NO, I do not trust NADA! This is based on negative discussion with them.
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NADA is useless. Last time I checked there site for the value of my coach, it was listed for under $2000...yah right!


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NADA is useless. Last time I checked there site for the value of my coach, it was listed for under $2000...yah right!


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I'll give ya $2100 for it, that is even more then NADA LOL!


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Judging by what's happening in Californication these days Dean may sell you his for $2,100.00 providing you dig it out. I just saw a picture of SOB motorhome in Californication with water within three feet of the roof.

I know this guy will take $2,100

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Like Vycan, I spent a couple years looking for a specific airstream. (1994 or 95 classic 360 diesel) NADA said its worth $26,500 in excellent condition. I found a few. Prices ranged from $22,500 to $90,000.

Determine what you want and shop around. You will figure what they are worth. There's a reason these $150,000 toys loose over 2/3 of their value in just a few years. They can be an expensive unreliable PITA for someone not capable or willing of doing their own maintenance or a treasure for someone willing to take on a hobby with the rewards of cruising in a classic that you have made your own. Just like airplanes, boats, cars...
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Just like airplanes, boats, cars...
Best answer so far, I can agree with all but the airplanes due to lack of personal knowledge, but I have heard others complaining then getting out once the fascination of owning fades. Definitely lasts longer with Airstreams mainly due to the rewards it keeps giving without sinking or falling out of the sky
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