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Old 10-09-2011, 04:54 PM   #1
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Airbags vs leaf springs

My 95 is on a Spartan EC2000 chassis with leaf springs front and rear. I'm not disapointed in the way it rides and handles but I'm curious about airbags. How superior is the ride? I assume the dinner plate rattling vibrations are less. Is a retrofit possible or would that just be stupid?

Thanks, Dave...
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Old 10-19-2011, 05:30 AM   #2
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No airbags at all? Wow, I'd think with the Airstreams being on the P30 chassis with airbags, that going to the Spartan that they would've specified airbags on it as well. But, what do I know.
I'm sure there's a retrofit available. I'll see what I can find.
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:35 AM   #3
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Derek,

While I have never owned an Airstream motorhome, I have owned 3 other diesel pushers from 33' to 40' and all had air bag suspensions. I can say without a doubt that they offer the plushest ride available in the RV industry today.

This is the preferred suspension system for virtually every high-end motorhome produced today. I would definitely look to air bags as a primary upgrade!

And if you really want to go all the way..... you can install an HWH active air system that will give you automatic air levelling also from your air bags. No jacks necessary!
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If it was me I'd not get a moho with out air bags. I have worked on trucks and bus's for 50 Year and it the best way to go
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Old 10-23-2011, 07:28 AM   #5
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If it was me I'd not get a moho with out air bags. I have worked on trucks and bus's for 50 Year and it the best way to go
That was the only option on the 94 and 95 360 classic pushers to the best of my knowledge. I would like to convert it if possible. I have a contact at Spartan who is looking into it for me.

The only other moho experience I have is from a rental in Alaska a few years ago. It had airbags and waddled down the road like a duck. The Airstream actually drives and rides pretty well. It would be nice to dampen out those sharp little bumps that rattle the plates and wine glasses.
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Dave, have you checked the Spartan website to see if there are airbag conversion kits available? Maybe once you've gotten that far, would venture to guess that there are a few websites that offer an airbag conversion. One thing I've learned from this forum, if you do get airbags on your moho, make sure that the front airbags are on separate fill valves. Thanks, Derek
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Old 10-28-2011, 08:13 AM   #7
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Have been able to find out much from Spartan. I do have a connection with an electrical engineer at Spartan who is going to ask the mechanical guys. I'm betting the the EC2000 chassis came both ways and I'm hoping to find a parts list of what I might look for used.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:06 AM   #8
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Derek,

While I have never owned an Airstream motorhome, I have owned 3 other diesel pushers from 33' to 40' and all had air bag suspensions. I can say without a doubt that they offer the plushest ride available in the RV industry today.

This is the preferred suspension system for virtually every high-end motorhome produced today. I would definitely look to air bags as a primary upgrade!

And if you really want to go all the way..... you can install an HWH active air system that will give you automatic air levelling also from your air bags. No jacks necessary!
I've been talking to Spartan customer support. After giving them the chassis number and VIN they confirmed that my EC2000 came with either leaf springs or Reyco Granning air suspension with the same axles. I'm getting more information from the parts department. I'll try to find the hardware at a salvage yard and buy new bags and wear components. I'll also look into the HWH active air system.

I have a HWH leveling system on it now that works very well. I'd like to save the weight and complexity by removing it if the airbag leveling system works as well.

This isn't a high priority upgrade but I'm going to start keeping an eye out for parts as you never know when someone's misfortune might lead to my gain. That didn't come out quite right! Makes me sound like a vulture circling overhead waiting for something to die.
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I had someone with lots of Motorhome experience suggest to me today to rather have heavy duty front coil springs installed then replacing the front airbags. I know by my own experience that the front Airbags only will last a few years, I had to replace them on my last Airstream Moho every 5 years, depending on the miles driven.
The cost for the heavy duty springs is supposed to be around $500.- installed versus ~$100 plus labor for the airbags.
Has anyone installed those kind of aftermarket coil springs and if so, how is the ride?
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Found another thread talking about the inferior front airbags:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f312...ure-94980.html
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