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04-09-2011, 04:14 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1988 34.5' Airstream 345
White Lake
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 95
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Where? Or how? To straighten tag axle on 345 MH?
The wheels on my '88 345 tag axle are slanting in at the top and the Airstream factory no longer has the equipment to do the job. I live in Michigan but will travel to have the work done. I have been told that these tag axle need special knowledge that many frame shops wouldn't have.
Mr. D.
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04-09-2011, 07:48 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Jamestown
, Kentucky
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 577
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My Manual says to , Cold Bend, tune
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04-10-2011, 07:27 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1988 34.5' Airstream 345
White Lake
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 95
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Thanks for the info. Has anyone ever heard of this job being done or had it done themselves and maybe could give me their experience? I think at one time my rig was run without the rear airbags inflated. Mr. D.
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04-10-2011, 08:53 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. D
Thanks for the info. Has anyone ever heard of this job being done or had it done themselves and maybe could give me their experience? I think at one time my rig was run without the rear airbags inflated. Mr. D.
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Under inflated tag axle air bags, should not have caused any problems.
Over inflated, indeed, will cause a problem.
The tag axles, can easily be aligned, if someone knows how to do it, since they are really a trailer axle as well, except with special brackets that handle the air bags.
Andy
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04-10-2011, 09:02 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. D
Thanks for the info. Has anyone ever heard of this job being done or had it done themselves and maybe could give me their experience? I think at one time my rig was run without the rear airbags inflated. Mr. D.
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Please take absolute care of that tag axle, as there is but one new one left in the USA, that we bought sometime ago.
Present feedback is that Axis will not build any for the forseeable future.
Also, the drawings for the special tag axle drums, are gone, and there is none to be found.
We are looking for a decent one from a salvaged motorhome, to possibly have more created, but so far, we have not found one. But again, Axis has no desire to manufacture that special drum.
So caution to all those that have a tag axle.
TAKE CARE OF IT WITH THE UTMOST OF DILIGENCE.
Andy
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04-10-2011, 09:41 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1990 36' Land Yacht
Dearborn Heights
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 17
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My '90 has the airbags on the drive axle, so a loss in air pressure Would put most of the weight on the tag axle For that type of alignment try someplace like Harold's frame shop (248-3497550) in Novi Mi. they've been doing that kind of work forever. Mark
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04-10-2011, 11:01 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Correction
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Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
Under inflated tag axle air bags, should not have caused any problems.
Over inflated, indeed, will cause a problem.
The tag axles, can easily be aligned, if someone knows how to do it, since they are really a trailer axle as well, except with special brackets that handle the air bags.
Andy
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CORRECTION.....CORRECTION
The air bags are a part of the driver axle.
Therefore if the pressure drops below normal, excessive weight will be applied to the tag axle. That, in itself will ruin the tag axle.
There is but "one" P-30 chassis tag axle available,
And sadly, there are zero P-30 chassis tag axle drums available, and latest information is, no one wants to build any.
Anyone know where we can purchase the drum from a salvaged unit?
Andy
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04-10-2011, 11:05 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 30' Classic
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 666
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A big rig shop that specializes in alignments should be able to take care of you. They need to be capable of making camber bends on an axle, not all alignment shop can do that so you will probably need to ask when you make an appointment.
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04-11-2011, 07:11 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1988 34.5' Airstream 345
White Lake
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 95
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Thanks again to all that responded! Does anyone know if the next generation of MH, early '90's non-aluminum, had the same tag axles and drums?
Mr. D.
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04-11-2011, 08:39 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. D
Thanks again to all that responded! Does anyone know if the next generation of MH, early '90's non-aluminum, had the same tag axles and drums?
Mr. D.
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As long as the chassis is a P-30, then yes, the tag axle is exactly the same.
Andy
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04-12-2011, 10:39 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1992 36' Land Yacht
garden city
, Michigan
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 10
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Hello Andy. I have a complete 1989 Landyacht, 36' P30. Chassis and tag is complete. Interior is gutted. has 22,000 miles when the 454 overheated. I'd love sell it complete, or? I left you a message at Inland with my number. Thanks!
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04-12-2011, 02:36 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Jamestown
, Kentucky
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 577
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to ( cold bend ), tune the axle
You will need 2 , 12 to 20 ton Bottle jacks
and 2 good nylon strap s come along s.
or 2 light 6 ft. chains
a couple of 2X12 by 10 s and a 6 ft. 2X6
common sense, prayer, faith and Guts
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04-12-2011, 02:42 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by racersdad
Hello Andy. I have a complete 1989 Landyacht, 36' P30. Chassis and tag is complete. Interior is gutted. has 22,000 miles when the 454 overheated. I'd love sell it complete, or? I left you a message at Inland with my number. Thanks!
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Sorry, but we do not buy or sell vehicles.
We are a parts and service center, only.
Andy
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04-12-2011, 02:58 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 30' Classic
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 666
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Umm, I'd rather see them pay the good folks that do those kind of things every day than advise that. Where I work we have an enclosed pit, plus lots of safety equipment, and it is still very dangerous for the techs when they bend axles or frames. Not worth the risk to save a couple hundred bucks, in my opinion.
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04-12-2011, 03:09 PM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Jamestown
, Kentucky
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 577
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ASwifey
Umm, I'd rather see them pay the good folks that do those kind of things every day than advise that. Where I work we have an enclosed pit, plus lots of safety equipment, and it is still very dangerous for the techs when they bend axles or frames. Not worth the risk to save a couple hundred bucks, in my opinion.
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For many You are correct ASwifley
for some it is another day down on the Farm or in the Shop
this is Not a complex nor complicated Job. If one is of the Correct state of Mind.
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04-12-2011, 06:38 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1992 36' Land Yacht
garden city
, Michigan
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 10
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sorry Andy, thought you wanted to purchase a drum, thats all. Going to scrap the whole thing friday. Thank you anyway
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04-12-2011, 09:23 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by racersdad
sorry Andy, thought you wanted to purchase a drum, thats all. Going to scrap the whole thing friday. Thank you anyway
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We would love to buy the tag axle drums, but no more.
Please advise.
Thanks.
Andy
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